Phoenix, Juice+, Ann Summers, Bluebella and the rest - What's the downside?

Jon

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I tried Phoenix and it didn't work for me. I still think it could have worked but I didn't have that much time to get envolved. The reason I joined was because I recently stopped working to be a full-time mum. Phoenix advises you to host a"coffee and cards" envent at your place or a friends place or you can also try to sell at playgroups for example. I couldn't be bothered with that myself because my son is quite clingy so I'm never really free to do anything. I thought I could just sell online but it takes a lot of "nagging your friends to buy from you" or asking them to spread the word. I just didn't want to be too pushy. I still have some lovely cards leftover (luckily I only bought the smallest stock), I am now using them for myself or giving a few away as presents (just adding a little pack of cards to a birthday present or christmas gift). I don't regret trying because it showed me that things that I thought were going to be easier can sometimes be harder that I thought. It was still a good experience which I think could've definetely work for someone else. Just to let you know Phoenix has recently closed down but a new card company will soon open.

wow!

I remember Phoenix being one of the first MLMs I ever read about

I'm just not sure the world in 2017 is suited for these sort of selling models anymore
 

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wow!

I remember Phoenix being one of the first MLMs I ever read about

I'm just not sure the world in 2017 is suited for these sort of selling models anymore

I don't think they'll last, at least not here in the UK. Many are being sneaky and miss-selling here, such as unregulated products (Valentus for example).

Apparently Younique has had a lawsuit submitted against them in the last few weeks for miss-selling their mascara.

Maelle had to shut it's doors temporarily due to legal investigations though they're back in December...apparently.

Too many shady dealings, too many people wising up to these scams so I can't see it lasting. Well, maybe Avon as they've been around forever.
 

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I don't think they'll last, at least not here in the UK. Many are being sneaky and miss-selling here, such as unregulated products (Valentus for example).

Apparently Younique has had a lawsuit submitted against them in the last few weeks for miss-selling their mascara.

Maelle had to shut it's doors temporarily due to legal investigations though they're back in December...apparently.

Too many shady dealings, too many people wising up to these scams so I can't see it lasting. Well, maybe Avon as they've been around forever.

Is it not all just basically now

Get person X to sign up for say £50 = recruiter gets kickback

Person X recruits person Z who pays £50 = Person X gets a kickback and prob the original recruiter does as well

The 'products' are just the carrot on the stick to get people to sign up and hand over £50. You could do zero selling and just recruit!
 

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Is it not all just basically now

Get person X to sign up for say £50 = recruiter gets kickback

Person X recruits person Z who pays £50 = Person X gets a kickback and prob the original recruiter does as well

The 'products' are just the carrot on the stick to get people to sign up and hand over £50. You could do zero selling and just recruit!

It very much depends on the company. The newer ones such as Younique and Jamberry require you to sell xx amount of product before you can earn from recruiting. You don't get anything just because you signed someone up under you. I never earned from my team in Younique because I didn't sell the right amount each month and I wasn't stupid enough to buy it myself just to bump up my sales. Think I made about £5 from my team on Jamberry.
 

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