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Knopfler

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Right, I'm obviously doing things wrong as I don't make a decent amount each month from mb'ing compared to some on here.

I know that I spend too long reading about suitable offers and how to do things before I even start, and waste far too much time and money on qualifying losses (QL's) to try and get the free bet/2UP/free spins etc.

I don't have a smartphone, so need to be on my desktop pc to do things, which slows things down to some extent.

I have just about all the big bookies (lost one or two) but still have lots of offers to do, and only just starting on the casino ones. Thinking ahead to Chelts, I intend to open some more this week.

I really need to try and get into horse betting more, especially for Chelts - never done any of the refund offers on them yet (sorry, Jon). Have done the occasional horse bets but too stressful near the off, so avoid them.

I would be interested in knowing the number of bets per day/week I should be aiming for, and the bet stakes too as I know I am too low on both counts (usually £20 - £50). I don't mind pm's if people don't want to post but I'm not after specific information anyway.

Ideally, I would love to sit at my computer, get all the mb'ing for that day done and out of the way first, and only then, look at reading/contemplating anything else.
At the moment I can spend hours just waiting for the odds to be close enough to get bets on (with the Oddsmatcher open and refreshed constantly).

Sorry for the waffling, just wanted to get the basic info outlined.

Thanks :)
 

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Ooops, @Jon - I meant to post this in the mb'ing section, NOT the moneymaking one - is it possible for you to move it please?
 

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in terms of you waiting hours for odds to be close enough for your qualifying bet what sort of numbers are you waiting for?

I'm generally happy with anything less than a 50p qualifying loss.

For stuff like horses you should be using Match Catcher which will give you a QL on horses around 10p or less the majority of the time!
 

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I would say on a £20 stake I expect to get around 50p or less QL
 
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but then most of my £25 horse refund offers using match catcher i get qualifying losses of 6p-14p
 

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Yes, I've just done a £20 for around that @Jon BUT I often go on lower ratings (between 92 - 96% ish) as I feel that doing 98-100% probably leads to earlier gubbings (though I could be wrong).

I KNOW this means more QLoss though - swings and roundabouts! I have started doing some 98% + with a newer (to me) bookie, to test the water. It IS hard to find these though without checking constantly.

One trouble I find with horse bets is the liability needed is HUGE!
 

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Yes, I've just done a £20 for around that @Jon BUT I often go on lower ratings (between 92 - 96% ish) as I feel that doing 98-100% probably leads to earlier gubbings (though I could be wrong).

I KNOW this means more QLoss though - swings and roundabouts! I have started doing some 98% + with a newer (to me) bookie, to test the water. It IS hard to find these though without checking constantly.

One trouble I find with horse bets is the liability needed is HUGE!
Yeah the liability can be quite big if you are doing multiple races but you already have a £1k kitty you mentioned before so you should be OK

I personally don't see anything wrong with 96-99% matches if i'm honest
 
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in terms of you waiting hours for odds to be close enough for your qualifying bet what sort of numbers are you waiting for?

I'm generally happy with anything less than a 50p qualifying loss.

For stuff like horses you should be using Match Catcher which will give you a QL on horses around 10p or less the majority of the time!
Do OM have a match catcher too? How does this differ from the normal oddsmatcher?
 

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Interesting.... looks like a ticket to get gubbed for me as I find it a lot easier to do horses midweek which according to some people is a recipe for disaster...

I did have an email from betstars offering a £20 free bet each week if i stake £50 each week for 4 weeks which sounds like a solid £13 a week even if QLs aren't that great!

On another note do PA have more signup offers listed than OM? I'm about £300+ up from sign up offers but think getting to £1k from what's left on OM list will be a stretch...

edit: the free bets I've left to do from the OM list is only another £400 or so :(
 
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Do OM have a match catcher too? How does this differ from the normal oddsmatcher?
OM don't have something exactly like Match Catcher, but do have the following:

a) Racing Matcher - this allows you to see matches for the offers on a race (or all the races for a particular offer), but you have to do a manual refresh.

b) the Oddsmatcher can be set to auto refresh (every 2 mins), if you are a subscriber to the yearly sub

c) the Oddsmatcher can also be set to send you email alerts (every 2 or 3 mins) for upto 6 of your predefined filters. This is particularly good for 2UP, but can be good for horses early in the morning when the odds aren't going crazy.
 
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Cheers Jon :D lol.

@Knopfler I would say to start with, don't stress so much about getting gubbed and taking the lower rated matches. I'll normally take up 99% matches without worrying too much (I'll avoid 100% and over matches), and to be honest I don't really even mug bet and still have most of my accounts. You may as well make as much money as you can from the bookies before they do gub you, but stressing so much about it and taking the lower matches is really going to eat into your profits.
 
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Shared Liability is the best way to counter the high liability that can come with betting on horses. That's when you bet on different horses (with different bookies obviously) in the same race. There can be only 1 winner so your liability will only be the amount needed for the highest odds horse - minus the stakes of the back bets of all the other horses you've bet on.

It's basically the only way I get through Cheltenham every year!
 
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Shared Liability is the best way to counter the high liability that can come with betting on horses. That's when you bet on different horses (with different bookies obviously) in the same race. There can be only 1 winner so your liability will only be the amount needed for the highest odds horse - minus the stakes of the back bets of all the other horses you've bet on.

It's basically the only way I get through Cheltenham every year!
Especially as there can be quite a few offers on the first race of the day. You can guarantee that both Skybet and Betway will have a money back one (Sunbets would have had one if they weren't gone). Looks like Coral will have a double winnings one too.

I just punted the Skybet one last year, although did lay £4 each time to cover the Free Bet difference (cashback this year so better), and was £200 up by the end (2 winners out of 5) :D
 
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I'm already looking forward to the first Cheltenham race - the Supreme Novices Hurdle.
Last year there was extra places on that race: 4 places at 1/5 odds at loads of bookies.
Also, the Champion Hurdle on day one: bet365 usually go 1/4 the odds for 3 places.

Let's just hope the weather is OK :)
 

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