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A lot of generalizations in your post Mabozza - people are not just complaining about the blades it's the whole set up. There are a a numbered of seasoned people like myself who have used both apps for a long time and are concerned about this monopoly. The rare outlier that BME throws out where a task jumps from £6 to £120 is not the everyday reality. Neither is the hoarding you speak off - from what you have explained it sounds like healthy fair competition.
And to say Task is too lenient is simply not true - it's the client who dictates what is good, not Task. If tasks were not done correctly they would get rejected.
Anyway, every cloud has a silver lining - there is now a gap in the market for a good local app seeing as Field and Task have both gone to pot.
 

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Of course hoarding exists, or whatever other term you want to call it (T360 themselves called it "Task Abuse") If it was fair competition why would T360 have been issuing bans to persistent abusers? Would you say it is fine and just the way it goes if someone were to reserve every task around you leaving you nothing, apart from the faint hope that you can nab them in the 10 seconds they appear back on the app? .. I don't, which is why i decided to quit doing blades (well that and the poor pay) Jane at T360 once told me they were in jeopardy of losing the blades due the hoarders that sat on so many that by 8pm there was so many left undone, so they ran them on saturdays, sundays even mondays to get the quota up... one look at the app today shows because the tasks were not being hoarded and shared among more users that there is barely a few left...the client will be over the moon at that. I can't see any new apps coming alomg and having any impact, BME and Roamler are massive worldwide brands, T360 was the only busy indepemdent app that offered either any competition, and they just bought them out... any other app that showed any kind of competition would get same... Field Agent would be the only app with a chance of competing as they are as big maybe bigger worldwide than BME, however, Robin Shuker that runs it in UK is utterly clueless and FA head office are obviously quite happy for the UK operation to remain a minor player here.
 

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I do remember the days of the the blades being taken IN THIER MASSES and then re-appearing a few hours later. Leeds was RIFE for it so they sort of had to do something...
 

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Having used T360, FA, BME, clic and walk, app jobber and street spotter for a while now I have to say T360 was by far the best. But I’m starting to see a positive influence on the BME tasks which is hopefully down to the T360 influence. It’s also been a lot more stable for me recently! I think we should give BME a few months and see how it goes. We may end up loving it as much as T360!
 

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Of course hoarding exists, or whatever other term you want to call it (T360 themselves called it "Task Abuse") If it was fair competition why would T360 have been issuing bans to persistent abusers? Would you say it is fine and just the way it goes if someone were to reserve every task around you leaving you nothing, apart from the faint hope that you can nab them in the 10 seconds they appear back on the app? .. I don't, which is why i decided to quit doing blades (well that and the poor pay) Jane at T360 once told me they were in jeopardy of losing the blades due the hoarders that sat on so many that by 8pm there was so many left undone, so they ran them on saturdays, sundays even mondays to get the quota up... one look at the app today shows because the tasks were not being hoarded and shared among more users that there is barely a few left...the client will be over the moon at that. I can't see any new apps coming along and having any impact, BME and Roamler are massive worldwide brands, T360 was the only busy independent app that offered either any competition, and they just bought them out... any other app that showed any kind of competition would get same... Field Agent would be the only app with a chance of competing as they are as big maybe bigger worldwide than BME, however, Robin Shuker that runs it in UK is utterly clueless and FA head office are obviously quite happy for the UK operation to remain a minor player here.
Last time I checked this wasn't a "give everyone a chance experiment" - it's business pure and simple - let those that can do the tasks do them. You just have to be quicker and astute to keep checking when tasks are put out.
As I said the proof is in the pudding - it's early days - once the hype dies down we will see how things pan out - in the meantime, there is a gap for something local, simple and well paid - and competitive. The test here will be the companies - will they fill their quota's -and users - will it be worth doing for them.
 
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I do remember the days of the the blades being taken IN THIER MASSES and then re-appearing a few hours later. Leeds was RIFE for it so they sort of had to do something...
Simple to fix with a points system in the app - infrastructure can be engineered very simply. Limit tasks to 10 at a time for instance - but whenever you abandon a task your points and the number of tasks you can do go down for a set period. No need to penalize those who actually get the tasks done.
 

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Simple to fix with a points system in the app - infrastructure can be engineered very simply. Limit tasks to 10 at a time for instance - but whenever you abandon a task your points and the number of tasks you can do go down for a set period. No need to penalize those who actually get the tasks done.
Do you think Roamler do things the right way?
 

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Having used T360, FA, BME, clic and walk, app jobber and street spotter for a while now I have to say T360 was by far the best. But I’m starting to see a positive influence on the BME tasks which is hopefully down to the T360 influence. It’s also been a lot more stable for me recently! I think we should give BME a few months and see how it goes. We may end up loving it as much as T360!
Yes BME tasks definitely simpler now - but not profitable with the task limit. No one is going to trek from one side of town to the other for the odd task here and there.
 

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Do you think Roamler do things the right way?
Definitely not - but far better than BME. They don't limit you to 5 tasks if you are at a high enough level.
The issue some have with the so-called" hoarding" on Task - is that the jobs were simple to do and well paid. So there was competition - which is fair as far as I am concerned. Roamler has many complex jobs, with dubious pins/addresses and with very low pay so no real competition there.
 

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Yes BME tasks definitely simpler now - but not profitable with the task limit. No one is going to trek from one side of town to the other for the odd task here and there.
Totally agree with you that a lot of work won't be very profitable if you can only get a couple and that's the whole point of doing the tasks well it is to me. I think some people who do app work/mystery shops don't think how much the petrol etc costs them and just see the value of the task and so aren't earning as much as they think.

I don't mind some of Roamler tasks, they have bad ones like all companies but some good. If the pin is wrong (which happens on all companies) I always say in the comments and they generally thank me and change it for next time. I did one on the way to blades yesterday which was 2 questions and 1 photo for only a pound less than blades.

BME had a long winded tv task that was poor money today but they were gone in a flash - the days of big price increases on BME will be gone now unless they are restricted to one each like the phone tasks.
 

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Totally agree with you that a lot of work won't be very profitable if you can only get a couple and that's the whole point of doing the tasks well it is to me. I think some people who do app work/mystery shops don't think how much the petrol etc costs them and just see the value of the task and so aren't earning as much as they think.

I don't mind some of Roamler tasks, they have bad ones like all companies but some good. If the pin is wrong (which happens on all companies) I always say in the comments and they generally thank me and change it for next time. I did one on the way to blades yesterday which was 2 questions and 1 photo for only a pound less than blades.

BME had a long winded tv task that was poor money today but they were gone in a flash - the days of big price increases on BME will be gone now unless they are restricted to one each like the phone tasks.
I agree - the aim is to make money - now with more users and the silly 5 task limit that will be nigh on impossible - there will be tasks taken not in any particular order especially by those with two or more accounts/phones - leaving odd tasks in completely different directions to each other. Add in tasks being posted at odd times and traffic - it will be more profitable to stick to traditional mystery shopping.

Best hope is Roamler but they don't often pay well and have a dubious reject system. Sometimes they have a good task like the Burt Bees or ToysRUs but they are far and few between.
 
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@glowingmoney @Star99 these are spot on comments.. they made me laugh reading because I've had the exact same thoughts. The majority of us are at a significant disadvantage after BME takeover. Price increases are way less likely to happen, factoring travel expenses for less jobs, jobs all spaced out so no routes... I think BME's thing is 'as many heads as possible'. To keep those heads, they need to set limits to allow the majority to earn something. If people are not earning they will delete the app so BME lose heads.

In contrast, T360 had less but stronger heads. We had much more value and I'm sure T360 identified their regulars and we were rewarded with amble freedom to earn good money. This thing about hoarding or abusing the system are not too significant as the majority of users played fairly. I was with T360 for 3 straight years and in that time, the function or 'rules' hardly changed so it worked from the start. It would have been no big deal for T360 to weed out the abusers.. who knows what happened behind the scenes.

I feel like we as taskers were also sold with T360 and unfortunately the company does not value us the same. We shouldn't devalue ourselves since we played a modest role in the success T360 became. Don't need a medal but to keep consistent earnings would have been nice. The vast majority are going to earn less and more over time. I doubt BME are going to increase reservation limits. T360 got away with it because they had a smaller team of taskers. Fastest fingers first with BME is not so relevant. You get your 5 if you can, be lucky after that. Reservation times are so long in addition to endless users; jobs will hardly come back to the map.

The excitement of colourful pins have gone. I'm gutted they sold. But it is what it is and all we can do now is suck it up. Either keep going and earn what we can or call it a day. I did OK with BME before the takeover. I managed to reach level 20 without my T360 login. But I think maybe it was an OK app because I always had T360 to smash. Now T360 has gone, everything seems wrong with BME.. time will tell.
 

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If T360 has gone what happens to the £4.10 I have stuck waiting to make it up to £4.50 will they pay me?
 

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If T360 has gone what happens to the £4.10 I have stuck waiting to make it up to £4.50 will they pay me?
They’ve changed the withdrawal requirements. You should be able to request withdrawal on it now
 

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I feel like we as taskers were also sold with T360 and unfortunately the company does not value us the same. We shouldn't devalue ourselves .
@Rumcake - excellent synopsis. We were sold down the river. BME has no respect for us - for them its a game.
Like other users, I have decided to give up on BME and go back to traditional mystery shopping with the odd well paid Roamler task thrown in here or there.
There is no way you will get more than £20 a day (and you will have to travel far and wide to get it) unless you have a patch all to yourself or there is a high volume task like blades, and that only comes around once a month. Where are all the other tasks they promised? Methinks the companies with Task accounts have not all transferred over automatically to BME - and I don't blame them. The app is not great, the 5 task limit is ridiculous, and the quality cannot be assured with so many users dipping in and out.
Another app is being developed to fill this void - believe me.
RIP Task360 - Goodbye BME!
 

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@Rumcake - excellent synopsis. We were sold down the river. BME has no respect for us - for them its a game.
Like other users, I have decided to give up on BME and go back to traditional mystery shopping with the odd well paid Roamler task thrown in here or there.
There is no way you will get more than £20 a day (and you will have to travel far and wide to get it) unless you have a patch all to yourself or there is a high volume task like blades, and that only comes around once a month. Where are all the other tasks they promised? Methinks the companies with Task accounts have not all transferred over automatically to BME - and I don't blame them. The app is not great, the 5 task limit is ridiculous, and the quality cannot be assured with so many users dipping in and out.
Another app is being developed to fill this void - believe me.
RIP Task360 - Goodbye BME!
Lol.. BME you wont make £20 !! Friday .. £72.. yesterday £25.. today £25.. so.far... and all while working.. for those of us still left on this awful app that was my biggest earning app last year.. the old T360 Wilko battery checks on now.. £5 .. same task as it always was
 

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They flew out though in fairness. Only a few left now. I think people are concerned about the bigger user group fishing from the same pond
 

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Yep
They flew out though in fairness. Only a few left now. I think people are concerned about the bigger user group fishing from the same pond
Yep, my local one has gone already. When it was T360 it would have usually stayed on for a few hours if I didn't do it so the angler population has definitely increased :eek:
 

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