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Oh nevermind I found it, seems I'm doing as badly as most. Now I see why my Neevo earnings are never what they should be lol. I think it's because a lot of them have background noises, sometimes quite feint, and I don't know whether to include 'accoustic issues' or 'background speech' etc. Some are very ambiguous, and I feel the process is probably very strict on these. I repeat something I said earlier abut Neevo - if someone is checking what we check, why do they even need us in the first place? It seems everyone can determine a good audio validation from a bad one but the corrections method is clearly flawed. It's nice to actually see some stats from Neevo though - it gives an idea of the sort of rates we probably get in the usual tasks. I might not bother with correction tasks in future.

WORK 1: Audio Correction
TASKS EXECUTED:
465
VALID TASKS: 247
INVALID TASKS: 215
TASK WITH PENDING EVALUATION: 3

WORK 2: Audio Validation

TASKS PERFORMED:
581
VALID TASKS: 581
INVALID TASKS: 0
TASK WITH PENDING EVALUATION: 0
 
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Are there any other tasks other than the Endless Earnings/ N*** client one? Ive clicked on 'upcoming' section and the missions there end on 4th June but seem to be just for an entry into a draw for amazon vouchers
 
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@Kenneth Crowder this surely can't be right I have spent ages familiarising myself with the guidelines and taking my time on the tasks. Does this mean I won't get paid for the invalid tasks? Is there any feedback to see what was actually wrong with those tasks? The fact that I got no invalid tasks for audio validation out of over 2000 must surely show that I know the guidelines inside out and am following them correctly!

WORK 1: Audio Correction

TASKS EXECUTED:
231
VALID TASKS: 38
INVALID TASKS: 193
TASK WITH PENDING EVALUATION: 0


WORK 2: Audio Validation

TASKS PERFORMED:
2367
VALID TASKS: 2367
INVALID TASKS: 0
TASK WITH PENDING EVALUATION: 0
Hey, i have read your response and understand what you're concern is, it is mine as well, today we should have a call with the client to about the reasoning behind the high number of invalid tasks. Their response to us yesterday was that their quality control system is picking up that users are doing tasks to fast and too quickly without quality in mind.

However you seem to not fit this category, so we will be looking at case by case, when we do this we also get to see the actual time users have spent on tasks so we will understand if it timing is an issue here,

I think what is important here is what makes a task be deemed as invalid, so we will follow up with the client on this too
 

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Oh nevermind I found it, seems I'm doing as badly as most. Now I see why my Neevo earnings are never what they should be lol. I think it's because a lot of them have background noises, sometimes quite feint, and I don't know whether to include 'accoustic issues' or 'background speech' etc. Some are very ambiguous, and I feel the process if probably very strict on these. I repeat something I said earlier abut Neevo - if someone is checking what we check, why do they even need us in the first place?

TASKS EXECUTED: 465
VALID TASKS: 247
INVALID TASKS: 215
TASK WITH PENDING EVALUATION: 3

WORK 2: Audio Validation

TASKS PERFORMED:
581
VALID TASKS: 581
INVALID TASKS: 0
TASK WITH PENDING EVALUATION: 0
Yes the background noise is a very valid question, this was brought up in the meeting yesterday, and neevo will be looking into this, because this is causing confusion. The confusion is also causing a high number of invalid tasks

they will look into this, however they did say in the mean time ignore all background noise, and only focus on the main speaker

If you hear 2 speakers, focus on the louder voice
 
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Are there any other tasks other than the Endless Earnings/ N*** client one? Ive clicked on 'upcoming' section and the missions there end on 4th June but seem to be just for an entry into a draw for amazon vouchers
Het Annie i think i responded to you in the otium chat, but yes please look on the brief and you will see a link to the clients website where you will need your credentials to login and start
 

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Yes the background noise is a very valid question, this was brought up in the meeting yesterday, and neevo will be looking into this, because this is causing confusion. The confusion is also causing a high number of invalid tasks

they will look into this, however they did say in the mean time ignore all background noise, and only focus on the main speaker

If you hear 2 speakers, focus on the louder voice

Yes, and I was aware in some earlier ones I forgot to capitalise letters when words were being spelled out. So I know there were a few wrong there, but not as many as were rejected. I feel what we need are some examples of where our work was rejected, because otherwise we are in the dark as to where we are going wrong.
 

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Hey, as mentioned these results are from the 28th of april, this does not include tasks you did yesterday.

At this time please have quality in mind when performing the tasks, we spoke to the client yesterday, as it was a concern to us of the high number of invalid tasks. Their response is that their quality control system is the one that decides on the validity of tasks.

However, even with this in mind, we will be having another chat with the client to have a better clarity of exactly what deems a tasks invalid. This meeting should be today.

This is disspointing. I was looking forward to putting my full effort into completing lots more tasks but refuse to do any more until this issue is resolved.
 
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Thanks - I think Ill skip the 'N' one - I'd be more than a little annoyed if I spent as much time doing that as some of the forum members have then discover I had missed out on work on other sites.
Thanks for your help though, I'll look out for missions other than this client
 
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This is one of the issues I could be having. Some of the recordings are 24 seconds long. However, they start with the word ok. That's an immediate no as it should read okay.

So I have been rejecting them without listening to the whole recording. So even though that is correct, I won't get paid for it. With my pay working out at about £2 per hour, I too will be skipping these tasks.
 

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Yes, and I was aware in some earlier ones I forgot to capitalise letters when words were being spelled out. So I know there were a few wrong there, but not as many as were rejected. I feel what we need are some examples of where our work was rejected, because otherwise we are in the dark as to where we are going wrong.

The capitalisation of letters shouldn't have deemed your tasks invalid.
"Capitalization and punctuation are not relevant. Although you are very likely to see the patterns below, not following these guidelines below strictly DOES NOT mean that the text is invalid" This section includes the capitalisation of places, letters etc..

I honestly think the issue lies with the client allowing anyone to carry out task 2, when some users don't fully know the guidelines so are therefore judging them as invalid when they are in fact valid.

Hope the issue is able to be resolved.
 

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I didn’t even get past the Audio Correction test, I‘m not entirely sure where I went wrong but can only presume that the words written weren’t correct, so I corrected them rather than writing that they were unintelligible. No idea really.

eg; a word written was ‘recently’ (I stupidly can‘t remember the actual word!) and I can see how it sounded like that in their Aussie accent, but they actually said ‘rest of the day’
 
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I didn’t even get past the Audio Correction test, I‘m not entirely sure where I went wrong but can only presume that the words written weren’t correct, so I corrected them rather than writing that they were unintelligible. No idea really.

eg; a word written was ‘recently’ (I stupidly can‘t remember the actual word!) and I can see how it sounded like that in their Aussie accent, but they actually said ‘rest of the day’
I have been told that every users tests will be/has been reset. If you can, please can you confirm if this is true for you, thanks
 

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This is one of the issues I could be having. Some of the recordings are 24 seconds long. However, they start with the word ok. That's an immediate no as it should read okay.

So I have been rejecting them without listening to the whole recording. So even though that is correct, I won't get paid for it. With my pay working out at about £2 per hour, I too will be skipping these tasks.

No in the validations I also rejected these immediately and all of mine were correct.
 
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The capitalisation of letters shouldn't have deemed your tasks invalid.
"Capitalization and punctuation are not relevant. Although you are very likely to see the patterns below, not following these guidelines below strictly DOES NOT mean that the text is invalid" This section includes the capitalisation of places, letters etc..

I honestly think the issue lies with the client allowing anyone to carry out task 2, when some users don't fully know the guidelines so are therefore judging them as invalid when they are in fact valid.

Hope the issue is able to be resolved.

I read closer and somewhere in there it said something like 'except in situations where words and letters are being said'. So someone spelling a name for example, must be in capital letters with a full stop after each letter.
 

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I have been told that every users tests will be/has been reset. If you can, please can you confirm if this is true for you, thanks

is this true for audio corrections, too? I haven't had any tasks since yesterday. On either of them, actually. Now that I know I got all of the validations correct I'm wondering why that job became unavailable for me while others were still doing it? Makes no sense.
 
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Mine have not been reset, it’s not allowing me to do any! I need to get another 20 of the correction ones done correctly so I can definitely be paid for this. It’s took ages and I’ve done nowhere near as many as some of you I can only do it at night when mini beasts are asleep. I would be furious if id spent all that time and won’t get paid becuse I can’t do any more
 
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I’ve still got no jobs available for these two tasks.
 

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me either. The easy one, just the validations, I was cut after 1 day even though I didn't get a single one wrong. It's so random.
 

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