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smitrit

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No idea if this is the correct forum to post this in.

I have my tin hat on ready though :)

For those that do not know me, I run a company in MLM full time from home as well as have a few different income streams that all fit around my Primary business.

My wife has been out of work for 3 years now due to us having 2 little boys in that time. About 3 months ago once maternity leave ended, she decided not to go back to her job because a) we are in a fortunate position, so she does not need to work and b) she wanted to be around the boys. However, she still wanted to earn money and has no interest in MLM or helping me, so we looked for something else.

I know many systems, programs and scams because of my work being 90% on-line which helps to narrow the search down. Maybe you have heard of DS Domination. I have a million times on facebook and that appealed to her, but not me because I know that to make good money from it you need to build a team and pay high monthly subscriptions to gain access to the higher profits.

We found something called Empire 21 which is similar and it only costs $1 or 60p to get it started instead of 20 times that with DSD. The $1 is a 3 week trial though. For that you are given the software which you can download to your own computer and access to the training. If you decide to continue after the trial it is $19 or £12 per month. There are no contracts or tie-in periods, so no need to go onto a paid subscription unless you are making money.

In a nutshell during the trial it teaches you how to find products on Amazon and list them on eBay for a profit of around £3 or 4 after all fees. You sell the product and once you have cleared funds, you then purchase on Amazon and have it shipped direct to your eBay buyer, so that you never see or post the item. You are taught how to quickly build up to 50-100 listings which should generate 5-7 sales per day creating an income of around £15-20 per day.

After 3 weeks, you start the subscription. Now, you can pull out and continue to use the software and knowledge that you have gained to keep making around £100 per week or you can pay the £12 per month and gain access to the next level of training which will show you how to find items with larger profits. This allows you to spend less time by listing less items and dealing with fewer sales to make the same money or to keep up the number of listings and make more money. Depends on how much time you want to spend on this. My wife does around 1 hour a day although she spent a good few hours in the very first couple f days to get through the training and list a lot of items.

Month 3 gives you access to some drop shipping companies to cut out the middle man that is selling on Amazon which once again increases the profits on the items, so it is worth sticking to the subscription for a little while at least and if you are making good money, then it's such a little business expense to have anyway.

Here is the link to the trial - http://jvz2.com/c/282365/130619

Andy
 

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I'll give you one thing, you really are persistant! :D

I just wrote a really long reply to your post because I have a lot of experience of dropshipping, but I've just deleted it half way through writing it because it's like talking to a brick wall.

Good luck with your businesses, but please don't try and suck in honest hard working people into your cult like schemes. If you were onto something that was really so good, then you'd keep your mouth shut and rake it in. As it is, your desperate attempts to get people to sign up to these get rich quick schemes show these schemes to be what they are, complete and utter bullshit.

You seem like a nice guy, why are you involved in these sort of schemes and not a regular business?
 

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I have been on ebay for over ten years and most of that was Powerseller and I was TRS - I closed my shop 2 months ago and started looking for other avenues of income. I dabbled in DS but the lack of control did screw things up - if an item went missing, or something had to be returned, or I was asked specific questions about the product. My friend used to DS from Asia and 95% was great, but one lost parcel or unhappy customer could wipe out her profit for the week. Anyway, people do make DS work, but I knew if wasn't for me before I even tried it. Unfortunately it is difficult to make a consistant income on ebay now (well, for me it seemed), I don't know what they do but one week you are best match and the next nowhere to be seen ... but that is another topic entirely. Good luck to your wife though, I'm not saying she won't make it work.
 

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plus the bad feedback you will get from disgruntled ebay buyers when an item you sold them is delivered direct from Amazon - buyers will feel scammed and will not be happy.
 

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Scott@KarmaContent said:
I'll give you one thing, you really are persistant! :D

I just wrote a really long reply to your post because I have a lot of experience of dropshipping, but I've just deleted it half way through writing it because it's like talking to a brick wall.

Good luck with your businesses, but please don't try and suck in honest hard working people into your cult like schemes. If you were onto something that was really so good, then you'd keep your mouth shut and rake it in. As it is, your desperate attempts to get people to sign up to these get rich quick schemes show these schemes to be what they are, complete and utter bullshit.

You seem like a nice guy, why are you involved in these sort of schemes and not a regular business?

Hi Scott. Shame you deleted it because the longer term plan is for my wife to run the distribution company that I set up and deal direct with wholesalers to drop ship for sales through eBay, Amazon and our own website. She is using Empire 21 to get a feel for the whole process although I am aware things do change when you do it all yourself. I was going to use esources to get started, but felt that there would be too many people selling the same items and trying to beat each other on price which obviously sees your profit dwindle.

With regards to sucking people in to cult like schemes or being desperate, then you are missing the whole point. I sold my estate agency last year to work from home has I have been doing some form of MLM for 20 years as a secondary income and knew that I would be able to earn enough money to support the family. I have posted my primary business details in the direct selling forum under a title of something like Global Prelaunch. It is MLM and you have made it clear what you think of MLM, so pointless going into any more details with that. The other post I put up was giving people a couple of FREE, I repeat FREE systems for them to make money. They are there for people to use if they wish or not. It really is irrelevant to me, but I help a lot of people make money on-line or at least point them in the right direction as well as helping them to spot scams.

There are no get rich quick schemes unless you play the lottery and the odds of winning are as you are well aware, very slim. Making money especially from nothing takes an awful lot of effort or else everybody would do it, but not everybody have the mindset to make it and most give up before they have started. In MLM 90% of people are not making money although they will try to tell you that they are and they generally switch from one company to another on average every 3 months. This is because they do not have the drive to do it. They are sold by the 'Make £1'000's a week in your spare time' motto, which is utter BS.

The vast majority of people try to make money on-line because it sounds great to earn lots of money and still be at home around their families, but and this is a BIG BUT, they often find that they need to work practically 24/7 for a long time to build up a solid business.

I spend 2% of my time selling and the rest of my time is mentoring people to show them how to firstly do business, then how to build it and finally how to maintain it.

I love to help people become financially free and every time I help somebody do that, it gives me more reward than making money does. That is one reason why I work for myself in MLM, but my main WHY is to provide a far better living for my wife and children than any job I could get would ever do.

Finally with regards to why I have posted this is to point people in the direction of a way to make money from home without having to spend money apart from the 60p trial fee, but like I said for that 60p you get the software and training. You only need to ever spend that 60p and you will have an income generating business with no real overheads. Once again, it is for people to either try out or leave alone.

The people that take action and try things are the ones most likely to make money otherwise sitting by thinking about it will earn them nothing. I this was a scam or a very difficult way to make money, then I would be nowhere near it and neither would my wife.
 

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Twiggy said:
I have been on ebay for over ten years and most of that was Powerseller and I was TRS - I closed my shop 2 months ago and started looking for other avenues of income. I dabbled in DS but the lack of control did screw things up - if an item went missing, or something had to be returned, or I was asked specific questions about the product. My friend used to DS from Asia and 95% was great, but one lost parcel or unhappy customer could wipe out her profit for the week. Anyway, people do make DS work, but I knew if wasn't for me before I even tried it. Unfortunately it is difficult to make a consistant income on ebay now (well, for me it seemed), I don't know what they do but one week you are best match and the next nowhere to be seen ... but that is another topic entirely. Good luck to your wife though, I'm not saying she won't make it work.

Hi Twiggy and thanks for your input. I personally feel that DS will go the same way as eBay Live. I'm not sure about Empire 21 in all honesty, but it certainly as more chance of lasting longer. However, it is a great starter for people to earn money on eBay without having to hold or buy stock, plus it gives them knowledge of drop shipping and will also give them some very good wholesale contacts.

With regards to my wife, I have kind of explained in my previous post to Scott. This is a stepping stone for her to running her own drop shipping company. For now the extra few hundred that she's earning is all going to be saved to fund the distribution company once we are in a position for her to get it started. The experience so far for her has really got her gripped on the whole drop shipping business and she is really enjoying it.

Thanks for the best wishes.
 

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DillyBloss said:
plus the bad feedback you will get from disgruntled ebay buyers when an item you sold them is delivered direct from Amazon - buyers will feel scammed and will not be happy.

It would only arrive in Amazon packaging if you buy it from Amazon though. I think around 5% of the items my wife sells is bought from Amazon. The rest are from other people selling on Amazon or now from the wholesalers directly.

I've bought things from eBay in the past and it's arrived in Amazon packaging, but I never thought twice about it and why would I. I have bought something at a price that I was prepared to pay which is what auction sites are all about.
 

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I did drop shipping many years ago, before the days of heavy eBay fees


Totally not worth it in my experience. You are flogging someone elses (or another companies) tat which they have a problem selling and then shove that problem onto you after you have paid the 'joining fee' of course
 

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Jon@TheMoneyShed said:
I did drop shipping many years ago, before the days of heavy eBay fees


Totally not worth it in my experience. You are flogging someone elses (or another companies) tat which they have a problem selling and then shove that problem onto you after you have paid the 'joining fee' of course

Joining fee?

There are lots of drop shipping sites out there that charge fees and you are right in what you say, but they may as well just be classed as scams.

You need to deal directly with the wholesaler to make the real profits or use a reputable middle man company where you get access to 100's of 1,000's of products.

However I am still researching this and have quite some way to go. I do have some good contacts in the business though that can get me rock bottom prices from China. They have been dealing with their contacts in China for many years, so I'm confident about any deal, but I would need to buy a container load and store it before selling it. I don't want to go in at the deep end unprepared which is why the wife is learning the ropes while I research and tie up some deals.
 

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there are a lot of drop shipping companies out there like already mentioned in the previous posts - I've always thought of listing items on eBay and using amazon as a drop shipper.

But like mentioned how would you feel if items were delivered in amazon boxes.
 

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I looked at drop shipping and even tried it out via DVD droppshippers (think thats what they where called) but the margins are just to small. As Twiggy says one bad shipment and scuppers your profits. Personally I would want to be in control and not rely on anyone else.
 

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tickling said:
I looked at drop shipping and even tried it out via DVD droppshippers (think thats what they where called) but the margins are just to small. As Twiggy says one bad shipment and scuppers your profits. Personally I would want to be in control and not rely on anyone else.

I would agree. I prefer to be in control of how items are delivered that I am selling on eBay.
 

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