I would say sites like Upwork / Fiverr etc are great when you are starting out.Hey just thought it was worth asking on here.
Any advice/info for a beginner.
Looked at the Fiverr/Upwork.
Any other stuff I may have missed.
Hard to get consistent earnings?
Thanks
Nate
Hi @nate99 - message me if you want advice. I mostly work on People Per Hour with the occasional dip into Fiverr (I only have one client there, but it is regular, it's a very niche subject - opera singer autographs and memorabilia - and it is very well-paid). PPH can be a strange beast (although it works for me!) so if you want help setting up a profile there and getting a start, let me know and I'll help all I can.I would say sites like Upwork / Fiverr etc are great when you are starting out.
You do have to accept you may have to do 'lowball' offers while you build up experience but further down the line you can charge more.
Having a niche is always a good thing as well, what can YOU write well about that other's can't?
I know the likes of @Iain @EdibleDormouse and even our very own @katykicker does paid freelance writing so may have some advice
Wow good rate for 500 words - comparing it to the typical low Fiverr ones I see!Hi @nate99 - message me if you want advice. I mostly work on People Per Hour with the occasional dip into Fiverr (I only have one client there, but it is regular, it's a very niche subject - opera singer autographs and memorabilia - and it is very well-paid). PPH can be a strange beast (although it works for me!) so if you want help setting up a profile there and getting a start, let me know and I'll help all I can.
One thing I will say here, so everyone can see is don't be tempted to lowball to get the job. The standard rate for 500 words is £20-25, so stick to this. Don't be distracted by other writers bidding less - they're either trying to get their foot in the door (and going about it the wrong way!) or they're working for a churn farm somewhere for $1 per hour. You get to recognise the signs. You also need to factor in site and PayPal fees to make sure you're not earning below minimum wage.
You WILL speed up. I can turn out 500 words in half an hour or so if it's a topic I either know a lot about, or know how to research quickly.
PS: I've just done my tax return for 2019-2020, and I earned £7000 from PPH alone (and in the 'before times', I wasn't even remotely doing it as a full-time job). It's possible to make a good living if you stick at it.
My work really just comes from either word of mouth from other bloggers OR from businesses/brands seeing my 'work with me' page (or whatever I've called it!) and getting in touch! I charge a LOT more than UpWork / Fiverr etc BUT I think they're a great starting block for sure! Some people make 6 figures a year just from those sites (not me sadly!) - great if you can writing seller pages or have a niche.I would say sites like Upwork / Fiverr etc are great when you are starting out.
You do have to accept you may have to do 'lowball' offers while you build up experience but further down the line you can charge more.
Having a niche is always a good thing as well, what can YOU write well about that other's can't?
I know the likes of @Iain @EdibleDormouse and even our very own @katykicker does paid freelance writing so may have some advice
You'll get the odd shirty chancer who'll be rude about you quoting £100 (minimum) for 2000 words when their stated budget is £8, but quite often it's because they simply don't have a clue about the amount of work involved. I know it's not our job to educate - there's money to be earned for a start! - but sticking to your guns and politely offering to be there to work for them in future pays dividends. Quite a few of my clients went with the cheaper option for their first job, then came back to me afterwards!of all the sites I always find Fiverr and PeoplePerHour to be the be the worst in terms of people putting up offers of wanting say 2000 words for £8 sort of rubbish
Though to be fair I see that a lot on upwork as well!
Sorry to contradict you a bit on this but SEO and proper copywriting are the same thing these days - the 500 blog post model with keywords hasn't worked for a very long time now. (Average position 1 ranking page is now 2000+ words)I would also remember that SEO copywriting and PROPER copywriting tend to be different things.
The former being 'rustle up 500 word blog post about cars and include this backlinks' with the latter requires a lot more research.
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