Gubbed by Bet365 :(

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Just been gubbed by Bet365 :( Can anyone make me feel better after life after Bet365?! I need to earn £1k a month through MB and they were a big chunk of it...
 

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Just been gubbed by Bet365 :( Can anyone make me feel better after life after Bet365?! I need to earn £1k a month through MB and they were a big chunk of it...
What did you do with bet365? Just the football offers or were you doing Horse Racing as well every Saturday?

You weren't doing midweek horses or something with them were you?
 

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What did you do with bet365? Just the football offers or were you doing Horse Racing as well every Saturday?

You weren't doing midweek horses or something with them were you?
Just 2UPs! Only horses I did were Cheltenham and the Grand National...I even got their in play offer for last nights game...
 

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Just 2UPs! Only horses I did were Cheltenham and the Grand National...I even got their in play offer for last nights game...
Crikey that's some bad luck then. What was your mugging strategy with them?
 

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Crikey that's some bad luck then. What was your mugging strategy with them?
Didn't really do any! Only because most things were eligible for 2UP anyway so I wasn't really sure what else I could bet on that would fit with my "profile"!

I was putting on £300 bets and I'd been using the account regularly since Sep/Oct I think.

So need to think of more ways to hit my target now!!
 

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Diversify. There is plenty of money still in MB even after you lose a good account. Look into doing things you haven't done before. Read up on PA/OM or whatever and give them a go. It is exactly what I am doing and I have surprised myself with the things I am enjoying!
 

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Diversify. There is plenty of money still in MB even after you lose a good account. Look into doing things you haven't done before. Read up on PA/OM or whatever and give them a go. It is exactly what I am doing and I have surprised myself with the things I am enjoying!
Yep that's my job for tomorrow night so I can get started again on Saturday!! What sort of things have you been doing?
 

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Yep that's my job for tomorrow night so I can get started again on Saturday!! What sort of things have you been doing?
I know I should have been looking at ACCAs, horsies refunds etc, but actually I am looking at things with erratic short term profits/losses which are profitable in the long term (like low risk casino). Still trying it all out, but quite enjoying it!

Also reading through lots of the OM forums and learning how people are making their money. I am then picking up whatever I fancy giving a go (after a lot of reading to understand each method). I am definitely the spreadsheet queen this month!
 

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I know I should have been looking at ACCAs, horsies refunds etc, but actually I am looking at things with erratic short term profits/losses which are profitable in the long term (like low risk casino). Still trying it all out, but quite enjoying it!

Also reading through lots of the OM forums and learning how people are making their money. I am then picking up whatever I fancy giving a go (after a lot of reading to understand each method). I am definitely the spreadsheet queen this month!
Also, if you think you might be able to get them back, give it a go. I have mentally labelled my accounts between 1. Gubbed to the eyeballs and no chance in hell of getting it back, 2. Gubbed either in casino OR sports no chance of recovery, 3. Gubbed, but possible to get it back, 4. Not gubbed, but sports bet restricted, 4. Ungubbed and 5. Ungubbed but never, ever seen any offers for years so completely useless.

Changes the way I treat each account.
 

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BTW - I have read on lots of forums that B365 do look out for people pounding their 2UP offer and everyone eventually gets gubbed.
 

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I know I should have been looking at ACCAs, horsies refunds etc, but actually I am looking at things with erratic short term profits/losses which are profitable in the long term (like low risk casino). Still trying it all out, but quite enjoying it!

Also reading through lots of the OM forums and learning how people are making their money. I am then picking up whatever I fancy giving a go (after a lot of reading to understand each method). I am definitely the spreadsheet queen this month!
Getting on low risk casino as haven't tried it yet!
 
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Getting on low risk casino as haven't tried it yet!
Just make sure you understand EV, the risk and ensure you have enough bank before you start. I have seen people take lots of losses before making profit, so it can be erratic. You need to have more of a long term view with this one and a bank.

Obviously lower stakes will limit variance a bit, but will take you a longer time to get through each offer.
 

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Just make sure you understand EV, the risk and ensure you have enough bank before you start. I have seen people take lots of losses before making profit, so it can be erratic. You need to have more of a long term view with this one and a bank.

Obviously lower stakes will limit variance a bit, but will take you a longer time to get through each offer.
How is your low risk slot spreadsheet looking these days? You must have as much of an eb and flow as I did when I was following tipsters
 

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How is your low risk slot spreadsheet looking these days? You must have as much of an eb and flow as I did when I was following tipsters
So, I really don't think I have been trialling it for long enough to really say. Been getting my head round it for the last couple of weeks and now fully getting into it. I am trying to track the EV against the value for each offer so I can see more clearly what is happening.

Definitely ups and downs, but not been anywhere as extreme as others I have seen on the OM forums. Think I made about £200 in the last two weeks when I was trialling it. Now I am doing it "properly" and £40 up after 2.5 days... what I will end up as is anyone's guess!
 

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So, I really don't think I have been trialling it for long enough to really say. Been getting my head round it for the last couple of weeks and now fully getting into it. I am trying to track the EV against the value for each offer so I can see more clearly what is happening.

Definitely ups and downs, but not been anywhere as extreme as others I have seen on the OM forums. Think I made about £200 in the last two weeks when I was trialling it. Now I am doing it "properly" and £40 up after 2.5 days... what I will end up as is anyone's guess!
yeah I mean it's a given that variance will swing away from you BUT the fact you are only doing offers and not just blindly spinning means you WILL end up with it finishing in your favour
 
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yeah I mean it's a given that variance will swing away from you BUT the fact you are only doing offers and not just blindly spinning means you WILL end up with it finishing in your favour
Yes. I am sure I will be up, but what I get to is anyone's guess for the month. Tracking against EV as a rough guide to what I should expect. Good job I like spreadsheets :)
 

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Just make sure you understand EV, the risk and ensure you have enough bank before you start. I have seen people take lots of losses before making profit, so it can be erratic. You need to have more of a long term view with this one and a bank.

Obviously lower stakes will limit variance a bit, but will take you a longer time to get through each offer.
I guess I need to think of it in a similar way to 2UPs in that I'll have losses before I hit a decent win that makes it worth while?!
 

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I guess I need to think of it in a similar way to 2UPs in that I'll have losses before I hit a decent win that makes it worth while?!
Yes and no. Anything goes in the short term, but if you do enough of the offers you should get to EV. You could get a big loss then a big win to get back to EV and be very erratic, or you could pretty much track along at EV. You can lower the variance by using lower stakes, but it does take longer.

At the moment I seem to be tracking along pretty closely to EV. No big losses or big wins, but others I have seen on forums are very erratic - even those using minimum stakes.

It is also easy to get drawn into it all and emotionally attached. You need to find a way to detach yourself. I see it like a stocks and shares type of investment where you know there are wins and losses, but should come out good in the end. I track everything against EV which takes longer, but helps me completely detach myself from the wins and losses so I can look at it subjectively.
 

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Yes and no. Anything goes in the short term, but if you do enough of the offers you should get to EV. You could get a big loss then a big win to get back to EV and be very erratic, or you could pretty much track along at EV. You can lower the variance by using lower stakes, but it does take longer.

At the moment I seem to be tracking along pretty closely to EV. No big losses or big wins, but others I have seen on forums are very erratic - even those using minimum stakes.

It is also easy to get drawn into it all and emotionally attached. You need to find a way to detach yourself. I see it like a stocks and shares type of investment where you know there are wins and losses, but should come out good in the end. I track everything against EV which takes longer, but helps me completely detach myself from the wins and losses so I can look at it subjectively.
I would say find a forum (not sure if PA or OM?) and follow it. Read everything you can, take time to understand and then give it a go.
 

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Yes and no. Anything goes in the short term, but if you do enough of the offers you should get to EV. You could get a big loss then a big win to get back to EV and be very erratic, or you could pretty much track along at EV. You can lower the variance by using lower stakes, but it does take longer.

At the moment I seem to be tracking along pretty closely to EV. No big losses or big wins, but others I have seen on forums are very erratic - even those using minimum stakes.

It is also easy to get drawn into it all and emotionally attached. You need to find a way to detach yourself. I see it like a stocks and shares type of investment where you know there are wins and losses, but should come out good in the end. I track everything against EV which takes longer, but helps me completely detach myself from the wins and losses so I can look at it subjectively.
Using the Autospin machine to do 100 spins or whatever is about as detached as I can get from slots I find. I even find the bonus rounds a hindrance because they require manual intervention lol