Having a good work ethic can be damaging when it comes to working from home

[Jon]

I'd like to offer a perspective, I am sure you have probably considered.

I know you guys mostly don't like the thought of mlm, sales based jobs, etc, so please, dont put any "labels" on what I am about to say;


The problem is not having a great work ethic, and working yourself into the ground, not having any spare time, etc etc. Thats awesome.

For me, I would say the problem lies in Never Building a Future.

you see, all these jobs you are doing (I am doing most of them aswell so dont take that the wrong way), they are all just that, "Jobs", they are not "businesses" or "future growing opportunities" or whatever else might be a good word.

As you know, if you dont do any work for leapforce, or any field agent tasks, you earn no extra money.


I put it to you, that it is of utmost importance for your future, to begin developing a form of "Long term Growth Income" (yes I made that up!!).

What I mean is, take this website as an example, you dedicate a lot of time into this website that does *not* neccesarily pay you up front per hour like leapforce, or per task like field agent.

however, the potential is there for it to earn you money week after week, even *after* you have stopped doing work to it.

Again, dont get me wrong, I know it is not as easy as that, but I also know it is entirely possible.

in recent years, I have ran websites that bought me in £1000 per month of adsense revenue, and they involved very little work after the initial burst of effort. That used to drop in nicely for around 6 months or so until my aggressive tactics backfired!!

So what I am saying is, if you could pursue avenues that potentially could yield long term income, it could be a more fruitful expenditure of your time. yes, there is the chance that you will spend time on something, that bears no fruit, I have wasted many hours (probably weeks and months in total) of my life working on things that didn't quiet work, but I have had enough taste of things that did work, I just keep trying as sooner or later I know I will achieve success in something that I can maintain and grow.

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You need to tell us more about this! - Or - write a blog post for me to put up on the blog - sounds a good story!


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I don't think you can compare TMS to a general blog. This is a community site that would get hindered by too any adds. Sites like this have enough trouble getting people away from Facebook without them thinking 'oh god!, ads everywhere!'


That being said while this site is a loss leader as I have mentioned elsewhere they are acceptable losses in that is very much its first year


I agree with you about spending time building up something to product a passive income!

 

[martay]

My brother and I ran a small network of free flash game sites, and a couple of info type sites. The flash sites got a lot of traffic but yielded low payouts, we struggled to squeeze more than 2bucks per 1 k uniques on that site, however the other sites did better, we had a site relating to credit reports etc that yielded only 100 or so uniques per day but earned £10 er per day on average.

All the while I had been using aggressive back link spam and the pandas and penguins killed our rankings and I have never taken the time to go down the ranking websites route again. I will do though.

Since then I have tried various other things, including spending around 6 - 9 months between 2013/14 spamming Facebook groups with saucy lady profiles pushing links to dating and adult cam sites

I managed to get that endeavour up to £40 per day but it was very difficult to maintain and not vary "passive", lots of a SIM cards and proxies etc

One day when I have warmed up to you lot I'll be happy to waffle on about some of the things I have done (or tried to do lol)

 

[martay]

And sorry yes comparing this site was merely a generalisation, I agree the target audience ( me and you etc) don't really appreciate blatant monetisation

 

[Jon]

My brother and I ran a small network of free flash game sites, and a couple of info type sites. The flash sites got a lot of traffic but yielded low payouts, we struggled to squeeze more than 2bucks per 1 k uniques on that site, however the other sites did better, we had a site relating to credit reports etc that yielded only 100 or so uniques per day but earned £10 er per day on average.

All the while I had been using aggressive back link spam and the pandas and penguins killed our rankings and I have never taken the time to go down the ranking websites route again. I will do though.

Since then I have tried various other things, including spending around 6 - 9 months between 2013/14 spamming Facebook groups with saucy lady profiles pushing links to dating and adult cam sites

I managed to get that endeavour up to £40 per day but it was very difficult to maintain and not vary "passive", lots of a SIM cards and proxies etc

One day when I have warmed up to you lot I'll be happy to waffle on about some of the things I have done (or tried to do lol)

Are you talking about stuff like buying backlinks through fiverr?

 

[martay]

My brother and I ran a small network of free flash game sites, and a couple of info type sites. The flash sites got a lot of traffic but yielded low payouts, we struggled to squeeze more than 2bucks per 1 k uniques on that site, however the other sites did better, we had a site relating to credit reports etc that yielded only 100 or so uniques per day but earned £10 er per day on average.

All the while I had been using aggressive back link spam and the pandas and penguins killed our rankings and I have never taken the time to go down the ranking websites route again. I will do though.

Since then I have tried various other things, including spending around 6 - 9 months between 2013/14 spamming Facebook groups with saucy lady profiles pushing links to dating and adult cam sites

I managed to get that endeavour up to £40 per day but it was very difficult to maintain and not vary "passive", lots of a SIM cards and proxies etc

One day when I have warmed up to you lot I'll be happy to waffle on about some of the things I have done (or tried to do lol)

Are you talking about stuff like buying backlinks through fiverr?

I was a heavy user of similar software that a lot of fiverr suppliers likely use, but no I would not buy a lot of links from fiverr, not unless I wanted the list of sites from the seller (the report could feed my own software with new link targets you see)



Fiverr is awesome for a lot of stuff though, I have used it for graphics, articles and even mass account creation like 25/50/100 accounts on various social media and blogging sites. I don't mind buying accounts which can be the tedious work but I'd not leave the links to a fiverr seller unless it was for the purpose mentioned above

 

[dcuddy1]

I tend to do treat it like a job, clocking off at 6pm, unless tv is rubbish but i dont tend to be looking for much after 6pm.

 

[katykicker]

I may have already posted here, sorry if I have. I tend to do 3-5 hours a day 5-6 days a week, suits me fine. Leaves me lots of time for family, friends, cooking, cleaning, reading, and the things that I like to do for fun

I did 1 hour or so this morning and 1 hour tonight, mostly just flitting online and not achieving a huge deal. Tomorrow I will come online to have a mooch around here and a few other sites but I won't do much actual 'work'.

 

[Jon]

I may have already posted here, sorry if I have. I tend to do 3-5 hours a day 5-6 days a week, suits me fine. Leaves me lots of time for family, friends, cooking, cleaning, reading, and the things that I like to do for fun

I did 1 hour or so this morning and 1 hour tonight, mostly just flitting online and not achieving a huge deal. Tomorrow I will come online to have a mooch around here and a few other sites but I won't do much actual 'work'.

Could you do a full 8 hour normal daytime job and then 2-3 hours extra at home per night plus weekends so you think?

 

[katykicker]

I may have already posted here, sorry if I have. I tend to do 3-5 hours a day 5-6 days a week, suits me fine. Leaves me lots of time for family, friends, cooking, cleaning, reading, and the things that I like to do for fun

I did 1 hour or so this morning and 1 hour tonight, mostly just flitting online and not achieving a huge deal. Tomorrow I will come online to have a mooch around here and a few other sites but I won't do much actual 'work'.

Could you do a full 8 hour normal daytime job and then 2-3 hours extra at home per night plus weekends so you think?

I'll quote you something that was said to me on the green site:

Wizzbang: I think that Katy should add for clarity that this is also 'her job'. I think it would be unrealistic for someone to a) expect to achieve those figures if they have a full or part-time job, b) expect that they could achieve that in the first year, even if it was their only job and c) I have never met anyone else achieving that kind of figure. I am not knocking Katy in that final statement, as she clearly works hard at what she does. But I think the OP should fully understand the situation.

My reply: just to clarify, my actual online job earns me another £25,000. That isn't something that people can just join up to a website and earn though, so I didn't bother to mention that. Hope that is clarification enough. I don't go on about this, because why be smug?!

The £14,000-£15,000 is what I make from the sites I've joined via the green site, my own website and cashback and such like. All of the things I've mentioned elsewhere on the green site numerous times. I put in between 2 and 5 hours some days, other days absolutely nothing. This week for example I've done about 4 surveys and one post for my website, maybe two, I've made £130 ish.

Also, I achieved the £14,000-£15,000 in my first full year, from 1st January - 31st December, at home, so it is possible. With regards to other people not achieving this they are out there, mostly on 'The Money Shed'.




I can't give specifics on my full time job, but it isn't something that I can recommend a company for, hence me not including it in my online earnings or talking about it I work 25 hours a week, at my own discretion, so I am very lucky, which is why I don't like to speak about it really. But as you asked I mentioned lol.

In addition to my 25 hour job and my online work I have a husband who works shift work 12 hours a day. He only works around 25% of the year (in terms of hours - so 50% of the days in the year) but I take care of the chores, most of the cooking/cleaning/pet maintenance and also I have several health conditions which see me at the hospital sometimes 5 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes less.

I save 2 hours not commuting (realistically) when I factor in being able to work in my PJs if I want to, and I enjoy running my home too. We have no children, yet, but I'm working on a work/life balance that means I'll be able to stay home forever (hopefully!). I batch cook, spend lots of time with my family, have lots of breaks away in the UK (not because of cost but because the last two times I tried to book abroad in advance I had radiation treatment and couldn't fly/travel far).

I have a fantastic work/life balance and I want to keep it that way. I've been very lucky to land on my feet with my job, my online stuff, my wonderful husband and my life. I don't want that to sound smug, but I NEVER mention that side of things, just because people can be rude when they think you have it all...(I don't mean here).


I hope this doesn't come across rude, it isn't meant to. Just trying to clarify a few things in the hope that I'll be hanging around TMS more and getting to know others. It seems more personable here, which I like, so figured I'd get what I want to share out there

 

[busybusy]

It does come across a little rude, however I appreciate that it can be easy to have comments misinterpreted when the reader than can not see your body language.

P.S You may want to edit the bit about people using this forum not achieving decent earnings as that is possibly not the best way to get people using this forum on side.

 

[Jon]

I think she means achieving not "not achieving" otherwise that sentence makes no sense

the green site tends to mostly chat about survey and click sites while the more meatier and higher paying work tends to reside here and opportunities get shared far more openly

 

[queen81]

I'm just wondering what your 25k online job is

 

[Twiggy]

I don't think your post is rude KK, you come across as grateful for what you can do instead of frustrated with what you cannot, and choose not to dwell on health problems.

If I had a day job outside the home I would not be 'working' online too (unless I had no choice for the money) as it would just be too much for me - I'd probably just stick with earning vouchers from surveys and other bits and pieces that I found relaxing when watching TV. My dog gets at lest 3 hours worth of walking a day, and then with housework and I cook meals from scratch, and babysit my friend's kids sometimes. I'd rather be time rich than money rich.

 

[Jegglejeggle]

I think I mentioned something similar a few months ago. The thing is, we need money. I thrive from making money. It is a hobby. I enjoy doing it. So every chance I get, I try to do something that earns me some extra cash. I have really had to teach myself how to relax!

does the lack of personal time and generally pissing off those you live with not annoy you?
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Are you married? We're you like this before you met your partner/wife?

 

[Jegglejeggle]

Last reply was to Jon, didn't link it properly!!

Are you married, and we're you like this before you met your partner/wife?

 

[Jon]

Last reply was to Jon, didn't link it properly!!

Are you married, and we're you like this before you met your partner/wife?

no not married - live with GF


Been with her 10+ years and probably been into earning online the same amount of time so hard to say really lol

 

[martay]

I don't think anything you said was rude katykicker.

 

[queen81]

No I don't think it was rude either but I get where busybusy was coming from

 

[Blackpepper1]

I agree not rude but Katykicker is good to clarify things and being open and honest is good to see.
There are some decent earning opportunities on here though not just GPT and survey sites and I prefer this Forum over the green site because of the amount of info on here is much better than the green site.
Another good thing is everyone is willing to help out with info there is no having to be mysterious or talk in code to avoid getting banned.
For me with health not being good I need to be able to earn online but not be tied down to specific hours. My health comes first then I try and also have a good work/life balance too. I want to be able to relax and enjoy life and spend time with my husband as well.
I would not be doing the online stuff or it would be allot less than now if I did have a full time job to go to during the day.

 

[katykicker]

It does come across a little rude, however I appreciate that it can be easy to have comments misinterpreted when the reader than can not see your body language.

P.S You may want to edit the bit about people using this forum not achieving decent earnings as that is possibly not the best way to get people using this forum on side.

Sorry, the reply I've wrote here doesn't come across so well. Someone was saying that you can't make that sort of money on the green site, I was saying 'with regards to not being able to achieve this the opportunities for my sort of money are out there, mostly on TMS' So it was a nice comment about this site, not one

What Jon has said to make the sentence make sense is correct ;D

It isn't meant to be rude, so glad people understand that Just hard sometimes to get the right sentiment across online :-*

If my real job (which is worked from home - just to clarify) was to disappear tomorrow I would continue to work online, as I do, and that would be enough. I'm grateful for what I have but don't usually talk about the figures of my real job, just because that coupled with what I make online can make for some rude comments (the green site PMs) which is partly why I was looking to move over to here more, where you can say what you mean and there aren't lots of silly rules.