Help! For the love of crumbcake PLEASE help!

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Hello money shed people!

Apologies if I'm in wrong section but I'm a complete noob.....but have to start somewhere I suppose.

I have a few main questions that I'm a struggling with, I'll list them....

1. If we are to go by the system of........qualifying bet, free bet, mug bet, withdraw.......won't the bookie get suspicious and see that this is an obvious pattern?

2. Will using a VPN service lead to being gubbed? I have a VPN service and assume that many others around the World have the exact same VPN IP.

3. Is it wise to block any java/flash attempts? Wont the bookie get suspicious at that?

4. Is there a good amount of time for when to withdraw funds?

5. How on Earth can you make £1000 a month from MBing!! You must have to join hundreds of bookies!

Thank you, this crazy orange feels very crazy with all this new info!
 

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[member=4441]The Crazy Orange[/member] Hi! Don't worry, there are no silly questions when it comes to MB ;D

My perspective on your questions...

1. Perhaps. It is dependent on how you go about it to be honest. I personally mug around an offer (so not strictly in the order you wrote), so I might do a mug or two on a Saturday and then do the qualifying bet for the offer, or I might do the qualifier and then mug the next day or whatever. Just varying your pattern a bit. There's not really any reason to keep withdrawing (unless you really need the cash for elsewhere) so try not to withdraw every penny you have all the time. Best to leave a bit of money in for the next weekend.

2. Nah. I use a VPN and have never had an issue so far.

3. Proceed how you would normally on any other website.

4. My own preference is to withdraw some of my balance if it gets above a certain value (like, if I have a 'big' win at a bookies and want to withdraw some to drop it below £100, for example) but then it varies from bookies to bookies. If you know that you will be betting with that bookies again soon then just leave it in, or withdraw a bit and leave some in.

5. In my experience, the only way you will get to £1000 is through a combination of time, multiple bets/doing every single offer that comes along (e.g. hitting accas and horse refunds HARD - doing this will require you to spend a lot of time looking after your accounts) and PURE LUCK on slot offers. Bear in mind that some (not all, but some....) people you see reporting huge monthly profits on the PA/OM forums are using more than one account with bookies ('the wife's' account) and/or reporting slightly 'inflated' earnings (i.e. not laying off free bets and counting the winnings as MB earnings, a low-stakes acca coming in unlaid, happy mistakes, slot wins etc) - not to say that this last one is a wrong thing, because I suppose there is a case for arguing that none of those things would have happened if it weren't for MB or that it's not exactly gambling in the classic sense, but it's just worth taking those figures with a pinch of salt IMO.
 
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thank you Uhhhhh for quick reply :)

1. With your specific VPN Uhhhhhh.....how unique is the IP given? With the VPN service I have, they only have a few which are UK based and it's a popular VPN company so makes me think there could be atleast a few people here on TMS using exactly the same VPN IP as me, seeing as they only have a few UK based ones.....making the bookies think somethings up with all these same IP's logging to their site.....not dodgy to you??

2. I've heard in many places that the bookie can restrict you just for believing that WE are restricting what they want to upload to the sites we visit....not true then?

3. Even here on TMS the front page has the ad saying you can make £2000 a month just from MB, but that can't be from using multiple accounts as thats against the rules isn't it and the site creator seems genuine here. Is it a case of literally joining bookies, 100's of them perhaps, just to get the small profts built up into a reasonable monthly second income? Even having to join bookies in other countries as were not supposed to make huge profits as that way we get gubbed?

Thanks again for taking the time wit me!
 

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The Crazy Orange said:
thank you Uhhhhh for quick reply :)

1. With your specific VPN Uhhhhhh.....how unique is the IP given? With the VPN service I have, they only have a few which are UK based and it's a popular VPN company so makes me think there could be atleast a few people here on TMS using exactly the same VPN IP as me, seeing as they only have a few UK based ones.....making the bookies think somethings up with all these same IP's logging to their site.....not dodgy to you??

2. I've heard in many places that the bookie can restrict you just for believing that WE are restricting what they want to upload to the sites we visit....not true then?

3. Even here on TMS the front page has the ad saying you can make £2000 a month just from MB, but that can't be from using multiple accounts as thats against the rules isn't it and the site creator seems genuine here. Is it a case of literally joining bookies, 100's of them perhaps, just to get the small profts built up into a reasonable monthly second income? Even having to join bookies in other countries as were not supposed to make huge profits as that way we get gubbed?

Thanks again for taking the time wit me!

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you didnt have to repeat it in caps did you.....I can read Jon.
 

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The Crazy Orange said:
you didnt have to repeat it in caps did you.....I can read Jon.

lol

In all honestly I would say people can earn over £2000 with some luck on the slots but the more offers you expose yourself to each month the more money you will make
 
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I see,

But isn't it therefore the case that bookies would start growing suspicious if you take up like every offer coming your way??
 

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The Crazy Orange said:
I see,

But isn't it therefore the case that bookies would start growing suspicious if you take up like every offer coming your way??

Typically you wouldn't do every offer with every single bookie. Take PaddyPOwer for example. They run an offer every Sat and Sunday on the first premiership game on TV. I just do it on a saturday and mug alongside it and don't touch the Sunday one.

It's all about creating patterns
 
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CrazyOrangeLife

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I see,

Do you mind me asking then Jon, how many specific bookies you are with?

Also, whats the deal in regards to using VPN? There must be atleast a few here on TMS that are given exactly the same VPN IP that I sometimes use.....wouldnt bookies get suspicious at seeing many many exactly the same IP's popping up when us punters log in?? :/
 

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The Crazy Orange said:
I see,

Do you mind me asking then Jon, how many specific bookies you are with?

Also, whats the deal in regards to using VPN? There must be atleast a few here on TMS that are given exactly the same VPN IP that I sometimes use.....wouldnt bookies get suspicious at seeing many many exactly the same IP's popping up when us punters log in?? :/

I'm with as many bookies as I need to be to do all the daily reload offers so probably 20+ odd.

i have no idea about VPN related things i'm afraid.
 
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20+ I would of thought you'd have loads!

Guess it's a case of balance, juggling, not betting large sums then.....slow and steady etc.

Thanks for your help!
 
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and yeh!

Are we not even jeapodising (can never spell that) the system here seeing as we are all being so open about it on a net forum?? :/

How do we know that a bookie isnt amongst us, reading this and reporting back to HQ etc?? :/
 

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The Crazy Orange said:
and yeh!

Are we not even jeapodising (can never spell that) the system here seeing as we are all being so open about it on a net forum?? :/

How do we know that a bookie isnt amongst us, reading this and reporting back to HQ etc?? :/

bookies have hundreds of thousands of customers

they make profits in the millions

MBers barely touch the side with any of that
 
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CrazyOrangeLife

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I get ya,

similar to volume price analysis in trading markets?
 
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Anyways,

It's a good site you've created......sure to give Mr. M. Lewis a run for his "money".
 

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The Crazy Orange said:
and yeh!

Are we not even jeapodising (can never spell that) the system here seeing as we are all being so open about it on a net forum?? :/

How do we know that a bookie isnt amongst us, reading this and reporting back to HQ etc?? :/

I'd be very surprised if a bookie was amongst us, I however am 99% certain that the bookies will have members on PA, Odds Monkey, etc. monitoring the forums, mostly for loopholes, etc. I'd be surprised if they're taking our usernames back to "HQ" and blanket banning however.

Also, on your topic of VPNs, I've seen clauses in some bookies T&Cs saying they don't allow people on a VPN, whether they can actually detect it or not I don't know, but I know they don't always look fondly on them.
 

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CrazyOrangeLife said:
thank you Uhhhhh for quick reply :)

1. With your specific VPN Uhhhhhh.....how unique is the IP given? With the VPN service I have, they only have a few which are UK based and it's a popular VPN company so makes me think there could be atleast a few people here on TMS using exactly the same VPN IP as me, seeing as they only have a few UK based ones.....making the bookies think somethings up with all these same IP's logging to their site.....not dodgy to you??

2. I've heard in many places that the bookie can restrict you just for believing that WE are restricting what they want to upload to the sites we visit....not true then?

3. Even here on TMS the front page has the ad saying you can make £2000 a month just from MB, but that can't be from using multiple accounts as thats against the rules isn't it and the site creator seems genuine here. Is it a case of literally joining bookies, 100's of them perhaps, just to get the small profts built up into a reasonable monthly second income? Even having to join bookies in other countries as were not supposed to make huge profits as that way we get gubbed?

Thanks again for taking the time wit me!

1. I pay for a VPN service and have been using it for about 9 months without an issue, but I get your point - perhaps invest in a more reliable service that allows you to choose the same constant IP address. I'm not an expert on VPNs but there's a lot of info out there on what might work for you :)

2. Again, not something I've had an issue with thus far.

3. PA claim you can make £2000 per month if you have the time to put into it. This is their claim. As I mentioned in my first reply, the only way I see this happening is by a combination of doing every offer everyday (which, like you said, isn't a great idea as will probably lead to gubbings), doing multiple daily accas/horse refunds etc (again, the threat of gubbings), luck on the slot offers and possibly multi-accounting. The latter is illegal (or, at the very least is in a very grey legal area) and we do not discuss that here - none of us do it, none of us suggest doing it and none of us advocate it.

Like you said, it's just a case of joining up with as many bookies as you can, do the offers they give and bring in a steady profit. Whether you want to attempt risky slot offers, do actual gambling with free bets (not laying off), the amount of offers you do and how much time and effort you put into it, well those things are all up to you!
 

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Just don't expect to be earning anywhere near £2000 from the very start (unless you are starting with a HUGE bankroll!)

Take it slowly and you will soon get hold of what you need to do with Matched Betting!!
 

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I have been using VPN over the last couple of weeks as I wasn't in the UK and the only issue I had was with Genting Bet - I couldn't create an account and they asked me to register without using VPN. I haven't done this yet but I will update once done.

As above, I wouldn't expect to make £2000 from the first day. Firstly as it says, it is up to that amount and it requires some effort. I can't spend 1-2 hours every day MBing. I get distracted. I'm also not very lucky, I don't win at slots easily. I haven't had any luck with refund offers and I did around 6 of them I think.

I did MB last year and took 9 months break due to travelling, I believe, it used to be easier.Now offers are leaning towards bet and if X happens, we will give you a refund. I'm not doing ACCAs either. Just not had chance to dive into them.

Also, I lowered my expectations. I'm happy if I get £250 each month honestly, as the more I try to keep on top of the offers, the more stressed I feel and this is not something I need at the moment especially. The way I see it is that if I do anything above £23 (PA monthly subs), I'm happy. Obviously, for just £5 profit, I wouldn't spend a lot of time however you earn more than this.

My advice would be, take it easy. Do sign up offers (easy ones first) then you will find your way into the world of Matched betting!
 

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It is all about what you can cope with, there are still some bookies I have not signed up with and at some point I will do, but want to ensure I have the time needed and the bank needed to :)

My best months have been bigger slot wins and have hit over £2000 profit but some of that you can say is luck!! But if your not doing it then you cannot be lucky.

My attitude is 'every little bit adds up'. I will take a £3 win over the temptation to keep going, as that then becomes proper gambling. I know exactly how it can feel, but losing money even if it is winnings is depressing.

Slots are pure luck... but I stick to (well 90% of the time) a strategy that works 3 out 5 times. Never sees a big return but normally makes some profit, but a lot of the time it's playing the long game, rather than getting a big payout straight away.
 

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