[OT] Discussion about Matched Betting II {Beginners Guide in 1st Post}

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this new notification on the mobile , is working well at the moment on PA
 

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this new notification on the mobile , is working well at the moment on PA
not tried it yet

what's happening?
 

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I am using it for notifications for the boost they have on . which is really handy
 

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Yes, I just nabbed an £1.48 from an easy price boost that took barely a minute to do thanks to the push notification - it's working well!
 

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Message deleted - (some bad advice shown below in Pbrails quoted message. do not follow!)

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Sorry if mentioned before, I am not a member of matched betting providers anymore but saw Boylesports have a very decent offer on the tennis.

They will double your winnings up to £500 if your player loses first set and goes on to win (unless I read it wrong)

Might be worth backing and laying a few players and hoping for the best!

Edit: This applies to Mens and Womens games
DO NOT LAY THESE BETS OFF!!!

I've just double checked this because you have to be wary of Tennis. Boyle Sports Retirement Rules do NOT match Exchange Retirement rules. This means that if a player retires you could lose both your bets!

You need to Dutch this to pull a profit from it.
 

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DO NOT LAY THESE BETS OFF!!!

I've just double checked this because you have to be wary of Tennis. Boyle Sports Retirement Rules do NOT match Exchange Retirement rules. This means that if a player retires you could lose both your bets!

You need to Dutch this to pull a profit from it.
I agree that you need to dutch Boyles for these offers (William Hill and Stan James are useful ones here), but it isn't true that you lose BOTH bets - the scenario is that one side may lose (not get paid out) and the other side gets voided (original stake returned). Ironically depending on who you have backed and when the retirement happens you can be better off as you win one side and the other side is voided so you get the stake back.

But it is risky to lay these at the exchange and should be avoided.
 

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Right, sorry. I was in a flap because I thought someone might do the bet wrong and wanted to get in quick. Thanks for correcting :)
 

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Can anyone help with what might be a silly question. ladbrokes have a daily odds boost on selected races. What’s she difference between just using the boost to make a little bit of profit by laying it off, and it being an arb? I don’t understand that if arbing is so bad for your account these boosts are offered. I know the bookie wont necessarily know you are going to lay the bet off. Should the boosts only be used now and again?
 

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When you Arb, you're taking advantage of the Trader's dropping the ball with keeping their prices in line and can hit them in the pocket which they hate. When there's a Price Boost, this is a deliberated calculated risk/offer made by the Traders which they are ok with.

If you want a real world analogy, think of it (a bit) like your bank offering you a £100 official Overdraft. They are ok with you using your Overdraft within your allowance because it's been agreed by them in advance. If you go £100 overdrawn and you don't have an agreed Overdraft, they'll either refuse to pay your bills or they'll sting you with penalties for it.

Even though both scenarios might involve you being overdrawn by £100, one they are ok with and one they are not.

Which also I think answers your 2nd question too in a roundabout way.

Even with an official overdraft, if your account is perpetually overdrawn, sooner or later the bank is going to say enough is enough.

So, Price Boosts. They are fine to use, and you can use them pretty often. But if you do a PB every single day for the full amount at the same bookie over and over, there's almost certainly going to come a point in the future where they'll stop you taking them. An early warning sign of this can be if they start restricting your stake (ie you hear someone has put a £10 bet on a PB, but when you try, they only allow you £5 max or it's an odd amount like £4.33p).

Does that make sense?
 

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When you Arb, you're taking advantage of the Trader's dropping the ball with keeping their prices in line and can hit them in the pocket which they hate. When there's a Price Boost, this is a deliberated calculated risk/offer made by the Traders which they are ok with.

If you want a real world analogy, think of it (a bit) like your bank offering you a £100 official Overdraft. They are ok with you using your Overdraft within your allowance because it's been agreed by them in advance. If you go £100 overdrawn and you don't have an agreed Overdraft, they'll either refuse to pay your bills or they'll sting you with penalties for it.

Even though both scenarios might involve you being overdrawn by £100, one they are ok with and one they are not.

Which also I think answers your 2nd question too in a roundabout way.

Even with an official overdraft, if your account is perpetually overdrawn, sooner or later the bank is going to say enough is enough.

So, Price Boosts. They are fine to use, and you can use them pretty often. But if you do a PB every single day for the full amount at the same bookie over and over, there's almost certainly going to come a point in the future where they'll stop you taking them. An early warning sign of this can be if they start restricting your stake (ie you hear someone has put a £10 bet on a PB, but when you try, they only allow you £5 max or it's an odd amount like £4.33p).

Does that make sense?
Thank you @Pbrail that makes perfect sense! Really useful info!!
 

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How much are you guys making on the Ladbrokes price boost, peanuts surely?
 

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I'm actually gubbed with Ladbrokes Sports anyhow so for me it's moot. Before they shut the door on me though I rarely did them as their odds are frequently weak anyhow and already take into account most of the Price Boost so generally I just used them for other offers to cover my QL. I think for them to be worthwhile, you'd probably be having to put on £100-£200 bets for it to be properly decent.
 

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You can use the boosts in accumulators too. I normally do one boosted acca on WH a week, which takes the qualifying loss down bit and opens up a few more options.
 

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Another (not really) MB post as not sure if a lay was even possible but I'm sure others like me like to see a bit of bookie bashing.

Skybet had a 20/1 flash boost on the Chelsea game to be decided on penalties. We know how well subscribed their flash boosts are, so if Norwich can hang on here they'll lose a fortune...
 

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