[OT] Discussion about Matched Betting II {Beginners Guide in 1st Post}

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Thais [member=2349]Danny[/member] and [member=143]auntygeek[/member]. Good advice about re laying on Smarkets. I didn't notice for a couple of days but know what to do now. I'm only doing one thing at a time so I can keep track until I get to grips more. I need to open a Smarkets account so think that will be my next job. [member=526]Miss Pear[/member] accas are a mystery to me too. From a complete novice in betting I'm only just grasping things at best now!
 

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I always try to lay on Smarkets.. all the little pennies add up in the long term!

Looking at some advanced sign ups. Not sure whether to try Super Lenny, Bet Safe or Netbet next.

And WOOP i have got 2 free £10 bets from Coral. Thaking them nicely.
 

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I tend to favour smarkets too. As Stims said, the pennies do add up quite quickly when you're turning over hundreds/thousands of pounds often enough. I also find their in-play system to be easier to use.
 

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I got the coral free bets even though my initial £10 bet already came in when the offer was on... happy days ;D
 

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Going to start a new signup tomorrow and try complete over the weekend. Think i'll go with Super Lenny and hope it goes well. A couple of free bets done tonight and another successful trade done.
 

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I'd be careful with Superlenny some of the reports are awful!

I'm having a right mare with Skrill.... Decided to restrict my account for verification when the account is already verified... Got £165 sat in there that I'd like to unleash on Mr Hills horse offer tomorrow!


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Is anyone doing MB without the help of PA? I'm wondering whether to sign up after the free trial or not.
 

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I'm having a nightmare with a certain red bookie.

I have a casino bonus of almost £30 showing as a credit but my account balance doesn't change. The moron on LC is trying to say I used it to place a sports bet. I didn't, I placed a bet the previous day which won and gave me winnings. 'This is your wagered amount' NO IT IS THE SPORTS BET WINNINGS.

I played through a bonus showing and should have had £30 or so credited, but at the moment I've LOST £20 odd. I've gone through the statement line by line and it doesn't make ANY sense.

I have a credit of the bonus but my running balance doesn't change.

Utterly bizarre.


EDIT - Omg! After a long time Theodore to the rescue. I definitely should have been credited and definitely HAVEN'T been! I'm not going mad!
 

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Zzil said:
Is anyone doing MB without the help of PA? I'm wondering whether to sign up after the free trial or not.
There is a LOT of advice on this thread but personally I would never have been able to gain the knowledge and tools to place the acca refunds, lists of all the reloads, guidance on mug betting, which offers are worth doing and which aren't, which slots pay out the most and so are best to use for the various offers... etc without PA.

You don't *have* to subscribe for the year, but why not pay for a month, complete all the sign-ups, move onto the reloads and see where you are?

For me, I've paid for a year (most cost efficient) and if later on down the line I'm in a routine of acca refunds, Sky Bet Club, emailed offers etc.... I hopefully should have all the knowledge and skills after this year so I'm hoping not to renew. Depends on how much I am checking the site for reloads in 11 months time compared to doing it by myself.
 

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Danny said:
I'd be careful with Superlenny some of the reports are awful!

I'm having a right mare with Skrill.... Decided to restrict my account for verification when the account is already verified... Got £165 sat in there that I'd like to unleash on Mr Hills horse offer tomorrow!


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What are WH offering? I see nothing on their site regarding horses?
 

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Zzil said:
Is anyone doing MB without the help of PA? I'm wondering whether to sign up after the free trial or not.
I can't think why you would ever do this [member=3100]Zzil[/member]

The amount of money you would make due to how many offers you are exposed to with PA makes the cost for it insignificant really
 

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JD said:
Danny said:
I'd be careful with Superlenny some of the reports are awful!

I'm having a right mare with Skrill.... Decided to restrict my account for verification when the account is already verified... Got £165 sat in there that I'd like to unleash on Mr Hills horse offer tomorrow!


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What are WH offering? I see nothing on their site regarding horses?
2nd place refunds on all races at market rasen


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wooo

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Danny said:
JD said:
Danny said:
2nd place refund... Thank you Mr Hill :)

Shame I only put £10 on it


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Did you see that Acca I posted earlier, reckon it's worth a shot, as you can loose two legs? http://www.themoneyshed.co.uk/index.php?topic=5338.msg64066#msg64066
I hadn't seen but that looks pretty good! Makes the gubbing from them feel even more harsh!


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Have you been completely gubbed or partial?
 

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JD said:
Danny said:
JD said:
Danny said:
2nd place refund... Thank you Mr Hill :)

Shame I only put £10 on it


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Did you see that Acca I posted earlier, reckon it's worth a shot, as you can loose two legs? http://www.themoneyshed.co.uk/index.php?topic=5338.msg64066#msg64066
I hadn't seen but that looks pretty good! Makes the gubbing from them feel even more harsh!


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Have you been completely gubbed or partial?
From Betbright Fully Gubbed..... Hadn't really done much with them.....

I wish I lived in London... Would love to go and Punch Skrill in the face.... Once my account is unrestricted with them I will be taking all funds from there and never using again....
 

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you crazy people that use Skrill
 

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Jon said:
you crazy people that use Skrill
On the whole I hadn't had any issue with them... Over night payouts have been Great.... For some reason they restricted my account last night... This morning I've been on the phone about 40 minutes with them so far... Had to change my email address & Password with them so far... Now apparently want ID verification... The problem with that.... I have no Photo ID.... ;D

The fact my account was fully verified previously has annoyed the hell out of me....

As soon as its unrestricted I'll be getting all money out of there and closing the account
 

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Zzil said:
Is anyone doing MB without the help of PA? I'm wondering whether to sign up after the free trial or not.
Here's my experience because I was wondering the same.

I signed up to the free membership last Saturday - I only did the Coral offer, the BetFred one didn't appeal so early as it's a £30 FB (and looks like it has to be laid as a single bet) so that meant a fairly high lay bet would be required if I was to make much from it. As I was super paranoid about making a cockup, I decided to do the William Hill signup offer instead as it was also on Quidco and gives 2x£10 FB's.

As I didn't have membership to PA this was something I decided to do by myself and so also did all the odds matching manually etc. I also received a £10 freebet from BetFair when signing up to use their Exchange, and as I wanted to lay that off but obviously couldn't do that on Betfair Exchange. That led to me getting advice from from [member=143]auntygeek[/member] (thank you!) on this thread to also open a Smarkets account and a £10 Loss Refund there too.

So, Free PA advice = Coral, BetFred & BetFair Exchange

What I actually did - Coral, William Hill, Betfair with FB offer, Smarkets with Free Loss Offer. I already have been sent my first WH Reload since then too.

In other words, you can learn the basics from the PA free offer and take that knowledge forward to do other bets without them, particularly the easy Reloads.


That all said....

I paid for the Year subscription of PA yesterday, 6 days after starting with the free one (I personally run with the mantra - Do you think PA works - Y/N - If Yes, no point buying the monthly sub, go for yearly value straight out the door - If No, why are you subscribing at all...run away!)

My reasons for doing this, despite me quite successfully being able to do things manually.


I wanted to do Accumulators as I know there's good FB value there plus they make good Mug bets. I knew there was a lot of information behind the paywall that would help me learn how to get a grip on that with confidence). I think PA's video tutorials are excellent, and there are also some handy spreadsheets in there too.

While I have oodles of Sign Up offers to still do, it's handy to have them all listed and in a 'Tick Off' format, so it's nice and tidy and I don't have to worry that I've missed something.

While I have oodles of Sign Up offers to still do (x2) I know they won't last for ever, and getting 'Heads up' on Reloads that I could easily miss means that that alone would justify the PA membership in no time. An offer missed is money lost.

Now that I'm in there, there is lots of useful advice on how to make the best of the more specialised Reloads, such Horse comes 2nd Refunds and stuff like that. Very useful.

There is also lots of information on what to do if you make a mistake, because as long as you realise you've done it in time, it's still quite possible to retrieve the situation. Or at least make it not quite so bad.

You get full access to the OddsMatching tool, which is a nice time saver. You can actually subscribe to this outside of PA for I believe, £8 a month, so you have a black and white value associated with that. When this is taken into account, and if you buy the year membership plan, that means the rest of PA actually only costs £4.50 a month - which is imo, something of a bargain for all the tutorials, forums, offers and general handholding you get.

I only joined PA yesterday so I'm sure there's other things I'm missing too (I've not even really looked at their Casino and Bingo stuff yet).

I would say, if you are leery about joining PA, go ahead and work through all the obvious bookies and do their Sign Up offers and manually Match Bet. There are plenty of easy ones to work through without needing to pay PA for pointing them out and assuming you're starting with a low Bankroll like most people, it's not like you're going to be whizzing through them very quickly anyhow.

When you start to run out of the easy stuff though, I personally think it's worth paying for PA because it increases both your potential and efficiency.

Just my 2 newbie cents :)
 

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this should be your first weekend of doing Goals Mean More with 888sport shouldn't it?
 

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