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[member=4180]Hollyhock64[/member] Ah righto, I'm with you!

Okay so you do not need to put any money into 138bet at any stage - if you use your £50 free bet and it loses at the bookies and wins into the exchange then you have made all of your profit at the exchange and are finished with the offer, because in the eyes of 138bet there is nothing for you to rollover as the free bet lost. That's why you want to choose something that is likely to lose at the bookies...which I know isn't easy, but we can try! However, if you use your £50 free bet and it wins at the bookies then what will happen is that your winnings will be put into your 'bonus' funds or will become un-withdrawable until you complete the rollover.

The rollover in this case is 3x so you need to have placed £150 of bets at 138bet in order to make your money go into your normal balance/make it withdrawable. Now, your initial £50 free bet may or may not count towards the £150 of wagering (check the T&s) so by doing that you may have already done £50/£150 wagering, so you would have £100 more wagering to complete - meaning that you need to place £100 worth of bets on 138bet, and you can do this with whatever size bets you like...a couple of £50 bets, 4x£25 bets etc - whatever you like. If your £50 free bet does not count towards wagering then if it wins at the bookies you'd need to do a further £150 of bets...again, in whatever stake amounts you like. You would keep placing bets until a) You have completed the wagering, or b) you have no money left in 138bet (known as 'busting out' - i.e. your bets have won at the exchange and lost at the bookies). The rollover bets are calculated as NORMAL...because you're not using free bets anymore, you're using your own cash (it just happens to be locked in a bonus or non-withdrawable state) and the intention is to try and get the rollover done with as small qualifying losses as you can manage, so at odds that are lower and as close to the minimum odds you are allowed to use during the rollover (check the T&Cs on 138bet).

The only place you'd possibly need to put more money into is the exchange - for a £50 free bet you'd need between £100-£200 in your exchange for the liability, depending on how high the odds you use for the free bet. If you lose that money into the bookies then you need to have a float big enough to cover the liability for laying your wagering bets... at odds of around 1.5-2.5 you'd probably need another £70-£150 in the exchange should you be required to do the complete rollover. So you should have £300-£350 available in total to feed your exchange just in case your free bet loses at the exchange and wins at the bookies.

Two things to double check in the T&Cs of the offer - whether there are minimum odds for the rollover (i.e. that your bets have to be over a certain odds in order to count toward the wagering) and also whether your £50 free bet counts towards the £150 that needs to be wagered (no problem if not, but you just need to do a full £150 wagering after your free bet - you can still break it up into bets of whatever size you like). Oh actually a third thing to check is if you have a time limit on completing the wagering.

Example, using a couple of possible scenarios:
1. You use your £50 free bet and it loses at 138bet and wins at the bookies. You've bust out at the bookies, there's nothing to rollover. You're finished with the offer.
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2. You use your £50 free bet and it wins at 138bet. Let's say your free bet won £150 at 138bet - now this £150 is locked into bonus/non-withdrawable funds until you do this 3x wagering. You've already done £50/£150 so now you need to do £100 of bets. You do two £50 bets at 138bet, calculated as Normal on the calculator. Once they're done, no matter where either/both of them win, you're done. You've rolled over/wagered £150 worth of bets. Your funds should now be freed in 138bet and able to withdraw.
 

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I am trying to do the TLC bet sign-up, but can't work out how you do anything other than match odds bets on their site. I tried to do a "both teams to score" bet but couldn't find it. Normally when you click on the beginning of the match, all the different permutations come up.
I would be very grateful for any help with this.
Thanks again.
 

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Yet another stupid question. The offer I am doing says you must "stake £50". Does that mean deposit £50, or bet £50?
The betting lingo always gets me!
 

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Morning.
When placing a bet where you get a free bet if your loses, do you calculate it as SNR?
Thanks for your help!
 

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Just do what PA tells you to do with that offer [member=4180]Hollyhock64[/member]
 

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Hollyhock64 said:
Morning.
When placing a bet where you get a free bet if your loses, do you calculate it as SNR?
Thanks for your help!


Ive been doing this for nearly 2yrs and have always done my free bets as SNR (as opposed to free bet stake returned) unless its a special one where you get a refund as opposed to a free bet so you calculate your qualifying bet as SNR in the first place.


Ive prob made that sound more complicated than it actually is havent I
 

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I am looking at an offer where you get more winnings if someone hits the crossbar, and I wondered whether there is any point, I mean, how often does this happen? This is more risky in terms of losing a small amount of money I think. I have never been interested in football, so I don't know what to expect.
Also, what is the best way to make money from it, that is, what sort of odds should I choose?
 

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I've had an offer from betstars which is "deposit £25 for a £10 free bet". It doesn't seem to make sense that you don't have to bet with the £25, just deposit it.
 

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If that's the offer then THATS THE OFFER!!! :)
 

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Hollyhock64 said:
I've had an offer from betstars which is "deposit £25 for a £10 free bet". It doesn't seem to make sense that you don't have to bet with the £25, just deposit it.

[member=4180]Hollyhock64[/member] If in doubt then check the T&Cs or post them here so someone can double-check for you.

On this occasion it really is that simple - I had the same email, used the free bet on the Spurs game and it lost into the exchange. £7.80 profit, done! ;) Mugged the other £25 for a 10p qf loss. Great start to the weekend!
 

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Hi [member=2431]Uhhhhh[/member], here are the T's&C's. From you previous post I see that you betted (bet?) the £25, which I will do. It was just the fact that it only says "deposit" rather than "bet so much, odds so much" etc. I think I am over complicating it. I assume odds of 2.0 will be ok, as it doesn't say anything about the odds.
Thanks again for setting me straight.

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[member=4180]Hollyhock64[/member] I just deposited £25 and the free bet was automatically credited - if memory serves then I think I logged out and back in again and it was there. You don't *have* to bet any of it right now, as you're right that it just says to make a deposit for the free bet, however it's good practice to mug with this offer so that you don't look like a bonus hunter.
 

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Hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between the oddsmatcher and the matchcatcher. (Sounds too much like the Child-catcher). Do you still use the oddsmatcher when you have the matchcatcher, or could you just pay for the platinum plus part of PA. I'm basically wondering if it is worth paying for both.
I would be interested to hear if folk think it is worth it?
 

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Hollyhock64 said:
Hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between the oddsmatcher and the matchcatcher. (Sounds too much like the Child-catcher). Do you still use the oddsmatcher when you have the matchcatcher, or could you just pay for the platinum plus part of PA. I'm basically wondering if it is worth paying for both.
I would be interested to hear if folk think it is worth it?

Match Catcher is JUST for horse races it updates every second [member=4180]Hollyhock64[/member]

The advantage of this is that it means you can do horse refund offers and have a qualifying loss of a few pence as Match Catcher updates itself so damn quickly

This is what I see right now so I could whack some money on these races and only lose a few pence!!

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No waiting around all day for odds to drop or any of that

You just click on the bookie link and click on the exchange link and place the bet!

bish bash bosh!!

Then hope your horse comes 2nd or whatever you need to happen to get the refund
 

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[member=4180]Hollyhock64[/member] It's specifically for horse racing, to chase refund offers. Personally, it's only worth it if you intend on doing horses a lot - which I would not recommend when your accounts are new. Or at least only do Saturdays, mug, and hope you don't win many at the bookies.
 

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Thanks [member=1]Jon[/member] and [member=2431]Uhhhhh[/member].
Blimey, I placed an in-play bet on the chelsea hull game and it was moving so fast, but settled at half-time as people advise it does.
Now for more stupid questions:
I know I should know this by now, but when a bet loses at the exchange, do you lose your stake and liability?
Also, as I have just started my first accumulator, do the winnings at the bookies move on to the next bet, if you understand what I mean? So it is the amount you have won which forms the stake at the bookies? I'm just trying to understand it and have only placed £10 to start with, in case I make a lash-up this time.
 

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[member=4180]Hollyhock64[/member]

Are you using acca catcher?

If so just follow the instructions on that and you're be fine!!
 

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