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Just out of interest, these are the top 10 shares held by investors on T212.

No surprise it is mostly new technology shares, Pfizer for obvious reasons and National Grid because they have given so many away free. Quite surprised to see Rolls Royce on there although its one I've held myself for ages.

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I don't think people will see as much movement in Pfizer as they're hoping for. It's always been fairly stable but they've got such a huge portfolio that the vaccine isn't going to make a significant difference. That's my take anyway
 

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I don't think people will see as much movement in Pfizer as they're hoping for. It's always been fairly stable but they've got such a huge portfolio that the vaccine isn't going to make a significant difference. That's my take anyway
i think it might do once the FDA approve it due to the dosage they've ordered
 

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May be of interest

 

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I personally don't use 212 i find its better to wrap the investment side in a S&S isa for tax reasons there are better platforms out there for this reason.

Best stock so far is jet2 402% return on that so far.

there are some really good returns on funds at the moment too, these re good to look at for a 5-10 year investment plan
 
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I've really got into T212 this year and have been depositing every spare bit of cash i can into it and it's grown by around 10% YTD which im pretty happy with.

Something I recently discovered was the investment pies, which are a good way of getting in on a bunch of companies you like, without having to buy full shares and allowing you to diversify your risk.
I have created a few pies using the ARK Funds ETFs as a guide, with a bit of self-assessment thrown in for good measure.

My main pie follows the bigger plays in their innovation ETF (with a few notable exclusions for companies I don't have faith in) and in theory, would have returned 22% a year over the last 5 years
(note historical performance =/= future performance!).

You can see the layout of this HERE and it's easy to make your own ones in the app.
 

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I prefer not using the pies so I have control over which stock gets increased when I put money in but I am an experienced investor. It would be really useful feature for though for someone who wanted to set up an ETF/Investment Trust allocation and pay in money and have it auto-allocated into the same allocation - which is probably the best way to start for new investors.

I really like the no fee ISA wrapper on it though.
 

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Had something weird happen today

My shares 'split' (these were Aston Martin ones)

apparently it's quite common
 

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Had something weird happen today

My shares 'split' (these were Aston Martin ones)

apparently it's quite common
I noticed this too - seems to be a consolidation with a 1 for 20 ratio
 

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I noticed this too - seems to be a consolidation with a 1 for 20 ratio
The price had tanked when I looked before going for a run this morning but seems to be moving back north now!
 

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It happens sometimes when a stock price becomes unweildingly large (Apple and Tesla) - the stock is split. It also happens when the stock price or so small that it puts investors off as they think there must be something wrong with it. or fund investors can't buy it as some can't buy penny stocks in the US - so the stock is consolidated.
Either way the value of the overall holding should remain the same. Though in practice and prior to fractional shares stock splits often helped the share prices as it made it easier for retail investors to buy them.
Consolidations less so as the price being so low can indicate something is fundamentally wrong or overly risky.
 

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Well whatever Aston Martin did (for whatever reason!) for splitting those shares seems to be working!
 

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Plug Power is doing very nicely for me. Opened the ISA on 3rd December. 20% up overall on my investment. Biggest gainer: 426B5A98-0B5D-43BA-BCDF-7F7EF82CDF38.png
 

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Clever people

tell me

does it REALLY pay off having a wide variety of stocks compared to just investing in ones that have bottomed out and then being patient?
 

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Clever people

tell me

does it REALLY pay off having a wide variety of stocks compared to just investing in ones that have bottomed out and then being patient?
I'm a novice and others may be able to answer more comprehensively than I can.

For me - I wanted to get into green energy. Biden winning the US election, then the Democrats taking control of both houses has pushed green stocks higher. The Dems have promised to invest heavily in new infrastructure for cleaner energy. Plus, this is a necessity anyway. I'm into Plug Power, IShares Global Clean Energy EFT (quite heavy into this), Tesla and to a lesser extent some smaller green companies.

My portfolio of investments in 26 different stocks is split between:

EFTs - these generally rise albeit quite slowly (bar the one mentioned above which is flying).

Green tech companies with growth potential (more risk involved here).

Stocks that pay dividends above 7.50%. Growth in stock price might be lower but the dividends (set to auto re-invest) boost the profit.

I also have a few hundred shares in Cineworld and will get into AirBnb shortly. At some point we will come to some normality post-pandemic. People should start to resume some of thier old ways so I'm hopeful of boosts for these. Same might be true for the budget airlines.


Edit - to add a $50k investment in Tesla in 2019 when its share price was $40 would now be worth $1 million! I wish!!!!!
 

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Plug Power is doing very nicely for me. Opened the ISA on 3rd December. 20% up overall on my investment. Biggest gainer: View attachment 1285

The trouble with those trendy young "green" companies is many of them have never made a profit, have massive debts and don't pay a dividend. I think there is a bit of a bubble forming in that sector and many have already reached their top for now.

The market really isn't behaving like we are in the middle of a pandemic any more, vaccinations and the return to normal already seems to be priced in. A V shaped recovery is not guaranteed. I'm happy to let my ETFs that I bought in the crash in march ride, as I dont think we'll go that low again but to anyone investing at the current levels, proceed with caution.
 

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It is all about the SPAC's at the moment and EV and Clean energy plays. In years to come we will look back at this revolution and wish we had got in these start ups at the bottom.
 
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It is all about the SPAC's at the moment and EV and Clean energy plays. In years to come we will look back at this revolution and wish we had got in these start ups at the bottom.
Agreed. What do you think about $cciv?
 

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Agreed. What do you think about $cciv?
I think a lot of things are stacking up especially the links to the the Saudi Arabian Wealth Fundd, with them being huge Lucid backers and Kleins previous involvement with them. Jony Ive being involved with CCIV also looks promising that it will be a luxury brand and he is listed on their website, he pretty much was instrumental in his 29 years at apple. Locks of things seem to fit and I was in at 11 dollars, so plenty to gain if it was proved to be true with very little downside with the 10 dollar floor.

I like getting on Spacs early as it does give a lot of options, just got to be wary with overpaying as they all follow a U pattern between target announcement and merger. If I miss the boat before target announcement I try and wait for the pullback before getting in. I am lucky to be in CIIC, SBE, and was in on QS at 11 dollars.
 

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I think a lot of things are stacking up especially the links to the the Saudi Arabian Wealth Fundd, with them being huge Lucid backers and Kleins previous involvement with them. Jony Ive being involved with CCIV also looks promising that it will be a luxury brand and he is listed on their website, he pretty much was instrumental in his 29 years at apple. Locks of things seem to fit and I was in at 11 dollars, so plenty to gain if it was proved to be true with very little downside with the 10 dollar floor.

I like getting on Spacs early as it does give a lot of options, just got to be wary with overpaying as they all follow a U pattern between target announcement and merger. If I miss the boat before target announcement I try and wait for the pullback before getting in. I am lucky to be in CIIC, SBE, and was in on QS at 11 dollars.
You're right. There are many strong links and now I just have my fingers crossed. Unfortunately I didn't get it until $15 (I put it off a day as I was umming and ahhing) but if the merger does happen I will still make a good profit and I think the future of Lucid will be amazing! This is the first spac I have invested in. I have only been investing since November so still learning and reading a lot!
 

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You're right. There are many strong links and now I just have my fingers crossed. Unfortunately I didn't get it until $15 (I put it off a day as I was umming and ahhing) but if the merger does happen I will still make a good profit and I think the future of Lucid will be amazing! This is the first spac I have invested in. I have only been investing since November so still learning and reading a lot!
I suppose if it doesn't come off and it drops back to around 11 then at least there is a floor. I have been in a lot, bought KCAC at 11 and sold at 130. Am in RMO too as I think they will do well towards 2022 with the commercial batteries. CIIC will be a good long play but it is currently over priced and has potential to pull back after merger.
 

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