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went on live chat and they mentioned the usual optimisation stuff, which i already do. I might try again from that angle of the different server. thanks.
Aye, i can't think of any reason why they can't move you a different server. Is the slowdown CONSTANT? I know you've mentioned you dont have cpanel with TSOHost but you do have WHM? Can you see if you are hitting bandwidth or physical memory quotas?
 

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I'll check tomorrow about moving servers tomorrow, as got the day off work

I'm on the cloud hosting platform, which sounds better than cpanel according to their marketing info. I doubt i'm hitting any boundaries to be fair, but no harm in asking tomorrow.
 

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Is it a biggie to go for hosting without an email service? I know it looks more professional to have @domainname.com
But is it ok to use Gmail or Outlook instead? I notice lots of hosting firms charge extra for email.
 

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Is it a biggie to go for hosting without an email service? I know it looks more professional to have @domainname.com
But is it ok to use Gmail or Outlook instead? I notice lots of hosting firms charge extra for email.
Email tends to be viewed as an extra now. Some people just use gmail or office365 etc which is now why it’s being done as an “extra” (and I think to also absorb the new cPanel license costs!)
 

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Cool. So it isnt seen as unprofessional to have a gmail or other similar email?
Nah not for the sort of site you are going to be making. Can ALWAYS buy email addon at a later date m!
 
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Just a word of warning on 'wordpress hosting' as I've seen quite a few people on social media who went with a hosting company offering this as they just wanted Wordpress (when in fact it's just regular hosting with the hosting company pre-installing Wordpress for you which takes about 2 minutes to do anyway!) and then when the customer wants to pivot away from wordpress and say wants to open up an e-commerce store, a forum or even a regular website without a CMS platform attached to it it then becomes time to pony up some more cash and upgrade the package they are on!
 

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Just a word of warning on 'wordpress hosting' as I've seen quite a few people on social media who went with a hosting company offering this as they just wanted Wordpress (when in fact it's just regular hosting with the hosting company pre-installing Wordpress for you which takes about 2 minutes to do anyway!) and then when the customer wants to pivot away from wordpress and say wants to open up an e-commerce store, a forum or even a regular website without a CMS platform attached to it it then becomes time to pony up some more cash and upgrade the package they are on!
It's not always 'just' regular hosting with WP pre-installed. The more premium offerings are tailored specifically for WordPress. The servers are optimised for speed and security for WordPress, and there is often a 'managed' service including updates, backups and bespoke caching. You can do all of that yourself if you're technically minded, but a managed service lets you outsource it all to the host so you can concentrate on new content, promotion and making money. It really can be worth the £200/mo per month that some sites pay.

It'll cost more to 'upgrade' to standard hosting because it's outside of the host's core competence. They don't really want to handle ecom carts and sites unless built atop WordPress, so price accordingly. It everything's geared towards WordPress then it's more work to accommodate other types of site.

Of course, if someone wants to pivot to another type of site then a generic hosting package is going to be more suitable anyway, rather than one optimised for WordPress.
 
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It's not always 'just' regular hosting with WP pre-installed. The more premium offerings are tailored specifically for WordPress. The servers are optimised for speed and security for WordPress, and there is often a 'managed' service including updates, backups and bespoke caching. You can do all of that yourself if you're technically minded, but a managed service lets you outsource it all to the host so you can concentrate on new content, promotion and making money. It really can be worth the £200/mo per month that some sites pay.

It'll cost more to 'upgrade' to standard hosting because it's outside of the host's core competence. They don't really want to handle ecom carts and sites unless built atop WordPress, so price accordingly. It everything's geared towards WordPress then it's more work to accommodate other types of site.

Of course, if someone wants to pivot to another type of site then a generic hosting package is going to be more suitable anyway, rather than one optimised for WordPress.
How do your optimise “WordPress hosting” beyond installing caching and say wordfence in WordPress.
i don’t get what optimisation they can do at the server end for those lol
 

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How do your optimise “WordPress hosting” beyond installing caching and say wordfence in WordPress.
i don’t get what optimisation they can do at the server end for those lol
Some premium, specialised hosts run WordPress in a containerised environment (a bit like a virtual machine for each installation). Resources are therefore entirely isolated and the site can call upon them without sharing with other sites, processes or the host OS. This is also inherently more secure and stable than shared hosting, as cross-site infections can't happen and software conflicts are less likely.

Firewalls and intrusion detection tools can be tailored to WordPress, rather than a broad approach for generic threats.

PHP can be compiled with just the modules needed for WordPress, and nothing more. MariaDB and Nginx servers can be used rather than MySQL and Apache respectively, providing superior performance. Generic hosting providers need to provide more general capabilities, which slows code execution down slightly.

They're often built on cloud platforms (AWS, Azure, Google) for added redundancy. These are typically tied into CDNs which deliver fast connections across the world. They'll typically have uptime monitoring and alerts built in - and some premium hosts will clean your site for free it it's hacked.

They have enterprise-level staging facilities. These let you duplicate site and test changes (or even simple updates) before pushing the staging site live.

Some shared hosting providers offer some aspects of these. You can bolt on some features, such as using Pingdom for uptime monitoring. But the all-in-one service can pay for itself.

It's not for most blogs, but once you get to a particular scale it's worth it.
 
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Some premium, specialised hosts run WordPress in a containerised environment (a bit like a virtual machine for each installation). Resources are therefore entirely isolated and the site can call upon them without sharing with other sites, processes or the host OS. This is also inherently more secure and stable than shared hosting, as cross-site infections can't happen and software conflicts are less likely.

Firewalls and intrusion detection tools can be tailored to WordPress, rather than a broad approach for generic threats.

PHP can be compiled with just the modules needed for WordPress, and nothing more. MariaDB and Nginx servers can be used rather than MySQL and Apache respectively, providing superior performance. Generic hosting providers need to provide more general capabilities, which slows code execution down slightly.

They're often built on cloud platforms (AWS, Azure, Google) for added redundancy. These are typically tied into CDNs which deliver fast connections across the world. They'll typically have uptime monitoring and alerts built in - and some premium hosts will clean your site for free it it's hacked.

They have enterprise-level staging facilities. These let you duplicate site and test changes (or even simple updates) before pushing the staging site live.

Some shared hosting providers offer some aspects of these. You can bolt on some features, such as using Pingdom for uptime monitoring. But the all-in-one service can pay for itself.

It's not for most blogs, but once you get to a particular scale it's worth it.
I stand by my £1.99 a month web hosting package lol
 

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Like I said, not for everyone ;) - but there is a difference...
Absolutely, the difference with my current host GURU and their performance offering is night and day!
you get what you pay for etc
 

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Another good hosting company to take a look at would be Cloudways.

We've been migrating sites away from TSOHost to it & the difference in speed, service & optimisation is fantastic. Top notch!
 
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Another good hosting company to take a look at would be Cloudways.

We've been migrating sites away from TSOHost to it & the difference in speed, service & optimisation is fantastic. Top notch!
It's a shame how much TSOHost have gone down the spout ( in my opinion) over the years.

Got an email from them the other day about their introduction of Cloudmark that i thought was FAR too complex for regular customers to understand!


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An important task for you
To ensure the transition to Cloudmark goes smoothly, we need to ensure all customers who use external DNS services make a small change to their SPF records.

If you use an external DNS, you need to:

Add "include:secureserver.net" to your current SPF records, if you have one.

Super important: Don't remove the current SPF data - this needs to work up until the changeover.

Example;
tsoHost's SPF is: "v=spf1 ip4:185.24.99.18"
To ensure that we can still send outbound mail when we connect our servers to Cloudmark, we have added "include:secureserver.net" to the end of our SPF record.
So our SPF record now looks like this: "v=spf1 ip4:185.24.99.18 include:secureserver.net"
 

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It's a shame how much TSOHost have gone down the spout ( in my opinion) over the years.

Got an email from them the other day about their introduction of Cloudmark that i thought was FAR too complex for regular customers to understand!


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I'd advise anyone that is with TSO to move ASAP - they really are awful with everything they do. Even if they'd offer hosting for free I would never go with them.
 
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