Advice needed for a first time tenant regarding repairs!

nicki

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I rent my house from a private landlord. We moved in in 2004 (we were to be homeless 2 days later and had no real choice!) and have had almost nothing done to the house by the landlord except a few must do repairs (new back gate leading to the alleyway as the old one fell apart, a new front door as that broke and I had to break in 3 times, the "wire" fusebox switched over to a circuit breaker style one, the kitchen flat roof re-covered, chimney capped, roof repaired when slates went AWOL during a storm, new carpets throughout upstairs/stairs, gas fire replaced when the old one got condemned and most recently a new toilet fitted ::)). Ourselves we've decorated all the rooms, laid cushion flooring in the kitchen, put up curtain rails in all the rooms, in the process of putting nets up and replacing roller blinds we've fitted, had central heating fitted through a government grant back in 2008/9ish, and other minor DIY things. Just before Christmas my landlord came around and asked about jobs that needed doing as I was having problems with the back gate AGAIN, so I said I'd write her a list as I keep forgetting to call her. :-[ Now the problem I have is I'm a first time tenant, and although I have a list of jobs which need doing I'm not sure what are my responsibility and which are my landlords so I was hoping some kind peeps on here could help me as the landlord is expecting the list tomorrow!

This is what I've come up with so far:

- Gutter end cap on the kitchen roof keeps coming off. It needs securing properly. This may be causing the damp in one corner of the kitchen
- Back gate frame is rotten and the gate itself is now missing a plank (it was the only way to get the gate to close!) as well as the planks have come away from the braces.
- Gap between the paving slabs in the yard/garden by the steps is causing rain to get in under the foundations (obvious by the growing hole there)
- Buddleia is growing out of the top of walls, I have tried to kill it but its not worked. Now causing the wall to split along mortar lines along the wall by the alleyway which is regularly used by people
- Gutter at the front of the house is leaking at the join Possible source of damp in front bedroom.
- Downpipe on the front has come away from the wall, appears nearly all the brackets are broken.
- Wall behind the downpipe has damage to the pointing with some appearing to be missing completely Possible source of damp in front bedroom.
- Front and back doors keep sticking due to warping despite numerous repairs to the back door. Could they be replaced with UPVC instead?
- Kitchen ceiling is covered in cracks which appear to be getting worse. Could this be damage caused by the old roof leaking? Especially as the cracks continue down onto the wall in places. Would explain why I can't get rid of the mould growing on it.
- Kitchen flooring needs replacing. Originally fitted by us when we moved in, as it was plain concrete after previous tenant removed it. Landlord paid for it I think?
- Laminate flooring in the livingroom is worn through in places, is buckled in places, chipped and constantly moves as well as the trim not being attached in a few places. AFAIK this is fair wear and tear as it was moving/not attached in places when we moved in.
- Shower in the bathroom over the bath doesn't work (hasn't since we moved in, when I swear we said it was "okay for now") can it be fixed or replaced since it trips all the electrics if it is switched on so is permanently off at the circuit breaker.
- Bath has hairline cracks in the bottom of it. You can see them, and you can feel them when you run your finger tips over them. Should it be replaced?
- Bath panels on the bath are broken and constantly fall/pop out (Landlady has said she'd replace these)
- Where the old toilet was taken out, the over flow pipe is left in the wall. Although I've temporarily blocked it with rolled up newspaper and gaffa tape, it needs dealing with properly.
- Numerous cracks in the walls/ceilings throughout the house. Not sure if its old age (house was built in 1936) or settlement caused by sycamore tree next door and the removal of internal walls on the other side!
- Electrics spark and according to British Gas who came out when my boiler broke down, there is a problem with the earth?
- Concerned about how the upstairs lights are wired in as you can see the internal coloured wire and I've had to rewire both downstairs lights, and my bedroom light myself when the fittings have become so loose they've either come off or have shorted the electrics.
- Windows are having the glass panels replaced as they've "gone" and are no longer sealed units. This was measured up for in October and the landlady is still trying to get the fellas out to do the job. They have my number to arrange the date as well but I haven't heard from them either. At the same time they are supposed to repair the sealant around them all as there are howling gales blowing through gaps! :mad:

If this was my own house I'd have a sign by the door saying "This IS the house that Jack built!" ::)
 

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Good that you have written a list !

They are responsible to have everything functioning and safe, nothing you are asking for seems unreasonable.

What is your rent like compared with others in the area?

Ours is a bit lower that a modern equivelant would be - we don't have a proper fitted kitchen for example, and we have a wooden front door that warps in the damp and is difficult to open. But, the landlord is really good about doing jobs that need doing.
 

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A lot of houses around here are student houses so are rented on a per person per week rate. General rate for an unfurnished 2 bed house around here is £390-£490 depending on the size of the house, I am supposed to pay £460 but have been paying £450 for the past year to cover the cost of dealing with the damp stains and buying paint to redecorate as every room needs the wallpaper stripping and re-doing. The landlord suggested that herself and that's fine by me as it would never get done otherwise as I just don't have the money.
 

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I can't see a landlord wanting to fork out for all those repairs


in my experience of renting (which was quite some years ago) everything is botch jobs and done as cheaply as possible
 

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Agreed with Jon. We've had nothing but problems with the property we rent at the moment because everything that is wrong is something that our landlord has bodged before as he doesn't want to spend time/money doing it properly. He is also a 'builder' so thinks he can do everything, it's a nightmare! Have a look at the tenancy agreement, it usually states what sort of repairs your landlord should do and what maintenance you should do. If you don't think it's habitable you could speak to CAB or Environmental Health and see what they suggest.
 

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we've rented through normal letting agencies which sometimes make the problem worse


so say


bath taps leak into the kitchen


you ring up letting company - they say they will ring the landlord, landlord doesn't want to spend much so you get a plumber come round to gel up the taps and tells you that it probably won't do much good anyway cos the bath really needs re-fitting
 

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Hmm it depends on the landlord. Mine will get the slightest thing fixed and doesn't expect me to pay for it (although it is a family member handy man and so all done for free anyway). We live in an old house. Wallpaper is peeling a bit, he wants to redecorate, I don't want the intrusion so said I would put a picture over it. I called him to change a fuse in the lightswitch too, I have no clue with stuff like that. My landlord before was good like that too.

I have lived in cities though and nearly everyone of those wasn't as efficient or bothered about keeping the place up to standard.

You are paying rent then they don't have a choice to say no to most of them as they are safety issues.
 

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It is extremely hard to get things done when you are in private rented property unless you are lucky to have a landlord prepared to spend money on repairs.
We ended up in a damp place that deteriorated rapidly as it needed loads of repairs done which the landlord did not want to do.
We had a good Letting Agency so the first place we were in was ok as it was fully managed by the so repairs were sorted immediately. However when it was eventually sold we had to move out into somewhere else and the Letting Agency did not inform us that it was not fully managed maintained by them. They were only dealing with taking the money for the Rent.
Course we had problems then when we told the Letting Agency they said 'oh we don't fully manage that place you are in, we only take the rent and any repairs you need to contact the Landlord directly'.
We were horrified as we would never have taken that place on if we had known we would have had to fight to get anything done. We think because of the state of the place they just did not let us know as they wanted tenants to be put in there and we caused no problems and they knew we would never have taken it if we had been told straightaway. Anyway the upshot was the Landlord did not want to spend any money. :mad:
We were promised at one point a new fitted kitchen but on the day that it was supposed to be done we got a phone call to say it had been cancelled. :mad:
We moved out of that place as we were moving up to Scotland anyway and the landlord refused to give us our deposit back because of the the repairs that needed doing!
He had been notified and refused to fix the damp wall in the kitchen but trying to blame us for it.
Well it would have needed thousands spent on it far more that the amount of our deposit though we hate losing the deposit for something that is nothing to do with us.
No doubt that house is all done up and up to standard and either been sold or the landlord is just charging allot more in rent for a place that is all nicely done up inside.
If you can get repairs done and have a good landlord who does maintain anything then you are extremely lucky.
Least we are not having to rent privately anymore.
 

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Look on shelter's website there's lots of good advice there about how to handle a landlord/lettings agency who's not doing repairs that need doing. Don't withhold your rent ever however frustrated you get with them, the laws all in their favour and none in yours and they will have you out the door faster than I don't know what. I absolutely loathe private renting! Why can't wejust build more social housing/affordable houses to buy :(
 

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Last night the landlord said SHE was coming down at 4pm to look at a couple of things. I have cleaned the house top to bottom properly. At nearly 4.30 her husband turned up, walked through to the back door which I struggled to open as its so warped, went outside looked at the gate and said "I'll come next week". I told him I'm busy all week until Friday (I have hell and all sorts on which involves me being out the house for hours in the middle of the day and he works split shifts in the chippy they own) and he's left! :mad:

I'm going to take some photos and print it all out with the list. I am seriously considering going on the social housing list as there's loads of them around here. I'm just very aware that it can take several years to get anywhere on it, by which time I might be looking to relocate to another town! :(
 

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Sooner you get on the social housing list the quicker you will get one, even if you do decide to relocate least youre somewhere on the list! We went on the list at the end of last year but were priority 4 so we will not get one any time soon.
 

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I looked into applying for social housing as a single mum back in 2004 and was told I would be waiting about 8 years for a property, so I decided not to fill in the forms as I thought there was no need to as in 8 years' time I would be with a new partner and we would have bought our own place. Guess who's kicking herself now :D
 

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You sound like me! I filled in forms back in 2007 when I split with my ex, but we were forced to live together for a few more months as neither of us had anywhere to go. After a major fight he upped and left one night to live with his parents and I've stayed put. I was on the list but there always seemed to be at least 40 people ahead of me on the list (it was a bidding system and told you your position on the list), and when I hadn't logged in for a while (HELLO! I was working and studying doing close on 90 hours a week no wonder I didn't log in!) I got removed from the list. I'm wishing I'd stayed on it now, there's loads of houses around here "boarded up" which are social housing :(
 

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