Matched Betting Discussion [OT] Discussion about Matched Betting II {Beginners Guide in 1st Post}

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Have a question about 2 up offers - what are the maximum stakes that you can use?

How much bankroll so you need to hit all of them with maximum stakes?

Second question - can you get totally banned from a bookmaker? ( not restricted but totally banned)

If you "only" got gubbed - how much money can you get from gubbed accounts?


I am planning to do 2 ups with Bet365 and Paddy as well, on maximum stakes.

Is barely (but still) 6 digit bankroll enough??

And also, is my money safe on those websites (compared to a bank for example). I would be anxious about depositing thousands of €€€ in there.

I hope that anyone can help.
 

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I can't help with most, but if you are gubbed you cant take offers so I would imagine there will be very little made.

I've never done refunds but would imagine everything was included.
 

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Have a question about 2 up offers - what are the maximum stakes that you can use?

How much bankroll so you need to hit all of them with maximum stakes?

Second question - can you get totally banned from a bookmaker? ( not restricted but totally banned)

If you "only" got gubbed - how much money can you get from gubbed accounts?


I am planning to do 2 ups with Bet365 and Paddy as well, on maximum stakes.

Is barely (but still) 6 digit bankroll enough??

And also, is my money safe on those websites (compared to a bank for example). I would be anxious about depositing thousands of €€€ in there.

I hope that anyone can help.
a). Max stakes will depend on how high-profile the match is. Big Champions League to Premier League match will be more. but you won't last too long doing huge stakes.
b) Probably at least a few hundred pounds, preferably a few thousand bankroll needed.
c) Yes, you can get your account closed by a bookie if the trading team think you're taking too much value.
d) If you're gubbed you can still try: arbing, each-way arbing, low-risk casino, each-way no lay, price boosts/enhanced odds, etc
e) Look up 'bookmaker funds protection' or similar to find out if a bookie is low/medium/high funds protection.
 

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Hello

Have a question about 2 up offers - what are the maximum stakes that you can use?

Honestly, I have never tried to max it out. Most I do is £25

How much bankroll so you need to hit all of them with maximum stakes?

See above, but you will be betting on odds of around 1.5 to 3.0 so your exchange will need to reflect this. So not as much as if doing horses with big odds.

Second question - can you get totally banned from a bookmaker? ( not restricted but totally banned)

Yes. But you are more likely to get restricted to pennies or zero. Which is effectively the same thing.

If you "only" got gubbed - how much money can you get from gubbed accounts?

Once gubbed, you are on a hiding to nothing. Arbing will last a couple of weeks at most until you are restricted down to nothing. Sometimes its worth maintaining an account if they have good casino offers, but usually I just cash out and walk away once gubbed. Some people will tell you some bookies ungub but I've never known it.

I am planning to do 2 ups with Bet365 and Paddy as well, on maximum stakes.
Is barely (but still) 6 digit bankroll enough??

Depends how many matches you want to do at a time. (saturdays can get busy, for example) But I would think so. You can always start smaller and build up.

And also, is my money safe on those websites (compared to a bank for example). I would be anxious about depositing thousands of €€€ in there.

Regarding Paddy and Bet365, they have been around a long time and should be safe to deposit your money with. Same with the exchanges Smarkets and Betfair, which is where most of your capital will be tied up. I would be wary of leaving too much with lessor known bookmakers.

I do tend to find 2ups a bit over rated to be honest and have never made much from them, so I would look around at other offers too.
 

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You also need to be selective with the 2up bets. Choose matches where you will not lose too much by backing and laying. And avoid hot favourites, say 1.4 or less.

I am totally banned from sportsbetting at Coral and Betvictor but can bet in casino (I don't though)
All TGP operated books have closed my accounts.
Most others severely limited and promotion barred.
I need new accounts. There is still money to be made.

Betway limited me to 81p bets some time ago so I continued to use them backing their boosts and superboosts only. A few weeks ago I made a withdrawal as my account had increased and betting only 81p a time obviously did not need a huge amount of money in my account.
The withdrawal went through o.k. but afterwards I found my bets had been further reduced to 78p max. Lol. And yes, I still do them.
Skybet 50p; Paddypower 10p; William hill 10p - So Betway is not the worst by any means.

Recently, I had just 91p in my Grosvenor Casinos account. I thought I would get this out by betting on horse racing and selected a close matched bet so it could be layed. Grosvenor offer best odds guaranteed and my selection won . Its starting price was slightly better than the odds I had taken.
There was now just over £2 in my account, so I tried once more. Again a winner and amazingly sp was again better resulting in £9+ in my account. This was a total fluke. I Know nothing about racing and don't think that I had bet on horses with Grosvenor before this.
Shortly afterwards I received an email from them stating I would no longer be allowed Best odds guaranteed but only the odds I backed at. - Pathetic really.

This week an email from Gentingbet banning me from sportsbook offers and promotions.
I was half expecting this as I was only doing their offers, especially Euro 2020. But their generally poor odds makes the offers the only things worth doing anyway.
 
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Oh, and when I visit Netbet I am greeted with:

Feel like topping up your balance?

Your current balance is: £0​

Want to win for real? Why not make a deposit?

but then... Max Exposure Allowed: 1.00 £
 

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Not a lot of offers around for The Olympics which I'm surprised at!
 

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Not a lot of offers around for The Olympics which I'm surprised at!
I can't remember there being many last time. With COVID I suspect things could be a bit more volatile anyway.
 

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Not a lot of offers around for The Olympics which I'm surprised at!

I can't imagine there is much liquidity in the exchanges for those markets anyway so I think it would be difficult to get lays on at any decent prices.
 

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