Matched Betting Discussion [OT] Discussion about Matched Betting II {Beginners Guide in 1st Post}

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Jon said:
Fantastic to have you back [member=1280]Stims[/member]

What unearth happened with following the tipsters then....

In all fairness, when i was keeping my discipline they made me money. Just a lot of work following and tracking bets for little reward. I'm monitoring a few still and may still keep at it but my main focus is going to be the risk free rewards again.
 

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Hi Guys,

Going to start doing accas now. Just wondered if anyone could help me understanding the lock-in method? Is this a way to lock in you profit with your 'qualifier' by laying all at the start? Or do you need to have the free bet?

Thanks
 

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With the lock in you guarantee profit regardless of getting the free bet, that's built into the spreadsheet's calculations. However, you get something like £5 on a £50 acca. The benefit over the 'normal' method is that you get approx 10% of your stake each time, whereas with the normal ones you make small losses until you hit a refund. So I think it depends on whether you like to guarantee small profits or take small losses and hop to hit lots of refunds. With both of these, each leg must be on at a separate time to lay off in turn.

The lay all method is different again. You usually make a profit off that, but not always. The benefit of it is not having to lay off each leg at a time, but it's more restrictive in what you can pick for your selections as the odds have to be quite tight to make it work.

If you're on PA I suggest having a good long read of all the methods and doing some dry runs with the spreadsheets before doing any with money.
 

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With most lay-all accas you lose money if one leg loses, but typically make money on any other result. You can lay matches on at the same time with this method, but you do lock-in the lay odds then and there. For either of the sequential methods (normal and lock-in) you typically see the lay odds get lower as you near the start of the leg's event, so reducing your loss (sometimes even to a profit), but not if one of the early legs loses. For lay-all you need to be laying near to the start of the first event to minimise the lay odds on all legs.
 

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Been doing a Jon with the Sky Casino Halloween Fortune II offer (although I know he doesn't like the pumpkin ;D ). Wagered £100 to get into the hat for a share of 20,000 free spins, up £35 already with free spins to come. It is a 94% RTP slot so not in the realms of the normal Halloween Fortune slot (97% RTP), so needs remembering when doing the EV calcs.
 

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BGO have an offer worth doing! tonight only on cleopatra plus.
 

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Halloween Fortune II is actually WORSE than Halloween Fortune!!!!


for me anyway lol
 

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It is a lower RTP. 94% vs 97%. I did the Skybet Spend £100 get a share of 20,000 spins offer and ended up £35 on it, but lost £5 on the Betfair one. Did the Lucky Halloween one on Betfair too - after 400 spins, was down £40, hit a massive £50 win on the next 100 and ended up £1 up - stopping there for the 50 free spins (not chancing another 500 spins as it is such a crap slot)
 

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Got a random £5 games bonus from pp which I wagered through to £23 on one of their Halloween slots
 

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PA are running a "halloween special" and offering a years sub @ £115 or £17.99 per month if anyone is interested
 

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Petrolman said:
PA are running a "halloween special" and offering a years sub @ £115 or £17.99 per month if anyone is interested

That's a great offer you should add the following term:

free and former platinum members eligible
 

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£74 down on that betfair halloween 1000 spins!

SEVENTY FOUR!!!
 

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Jon said:
£74 down on that betfair halloween 1000 spins!

SEVENTY FOUR!!!
You have some big cojones!! I wimped out @ 500 when I got back that £40 loss. You will need to hit a big £50 win as I did in the free 100 to get near to getting that back
 

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If I am going to start an offer I am going to complete it no matter what the outcome :)
 

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katykicker said:
Petrolman said:
PA are running a "halloween special" and offering a years sub @ £115 or £17.99 per month if anyone is interested

That's a great offer you should add the following term:

free and former platinum members eligible
Do you know when it runs to? My monthly sub runs out in a week.

I may still go with plan A. Oddsmonkey + PA apps for the acca and race matchers, but it would give me food for thought
 

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Jon said:
If I am going to start an offer I am going to complete it no matter what the outcome :)
@ 400 spins and £40 down, I did think of you and ploughed on, assuming the RTP would kick in eventually (which it did, but I wimped at that point - maybe in a little while I may have your bankroll and be slightly less wimpy)
 

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"This weekend" are all the details I have from them personally
 

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