Matched Betting Discussion [OT] Discussion about Matched Betting II {Beginners Guide in 1st Post}

[Jon]

Keep an eye on Profit Accumulator

There's a very nice announcement coming your way

 

[Leeceford]

Brilliant announcement. Very happy with that

 

[Jon]

Brilliant announcement. Very happy with that

https://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/news/matched-betting/acca-catcher-and-match-catcher-now-available-to-all-members/

 

[Blackpepper1]

Brilliant announcement. Very happy with that

Yes definitely brilliant news!
Very happy saves money and a refund back at the same time.
Nice end to the week.

 

[Uhhhhh]

"Based on the feedback we received" LOL

My current year is almost up with OM, so I'll probably do the ol' switcheroo and see how it goes. Being able to compare services is great.

 

[jkg-jkg]

Brilliant announcement. Very happy with that

https://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/news/matched-betting/acca-catcher-and-match-catcher-now-available-to-all-members/

That definitely complicates matters!!! If only their oddsmatcher was as good as OM then it would be a no brainer!!!

Some serious thinking to be done for sure

 

[Jon]

Brilliant announcement. Very happy with that

https://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/news/matched-betting/acca-catcher-and-match-catcher-now-available-to-all-members/

That definitely complicates matters!!! If only their oddsmatcher was as good as OM then it would be a no brainer!!!

Some serious thinking to be done for sure

I think a new version of Oddsmatching is coming

I think it's being Beta tested at the moment.

 

[Leeceford]

I use the beta version most of the time now, definitely a good improvement on the old one.

 

[jkg-jkg]

I use the beta version most of the time now, definitely a good improvement on the old one.

What are the differences?

 

[Leeceford]

It does lots of other sports in it, it is also much quicker to update

 

[jkg-jkg]

It does lots of other sports in it, it is also much quicker to update

does it have an 'advanced' bit where you can do underlay/overlay calcs? And does it do more bookies (e.g. Sunbets)

 

[Leeceford]

It does lots of other sports in it, it is also much quicker to update

does it have an 'advanced' bit where you can do underlay/overlay calcs? And does it do more bookies (e.g. Sunbets)

Yes to more bookies, just checked and Sunbets is there.
Don't think it has the underlay etc calcs but I have always just used the main calculator for that.

 

[ilbrec]

Anyone else having trouble getting betfair casino to load? Can't open up the games on desktop and sky is blocking mobile suddenly with a phising message

 

[Leeceford]

Sorry just seen this [member=562]ilbrec[/member]
Just tried on my computer and it is working fine for me.

 

[Knopfler]

Hi, [member=562]ilbrec[/member]

What browser are you using? I use Firefox but some games won't load, so I then try them on Google Chrome and they are usually fine.

Hope this helps

 

[ilbrec]

Everything is working OK now for me without changing anything . Random. Cheers for having a nose peeps.

 

[Stims]

I'm not sure I agree they are relatively low risk

Ladbrokes wager £30 for £5 free bet - with the right RTP slot then this is a +ve EV so agree here
Sportingbet Wager £10 and get 50% refund on losses - this still needs you to make losses, so this is -ve EV
Superlenny 200% deposit bonus (x20) buying in with £20 - if this is just x20 the bonus then marginal, but x20 both deposit and bonus then it is -ve EV
Betfair £5 live casino match - this is sort of ok, but with such a small amount the variance can kill you even if the EV is +ve

Maybe you are limited to the offers you are allowed to do, but it might be you need to look again at the offers you choose and target only those with +ve EV for a while

I don't think you quite grasp the maths behind what would be EV and what wouldn't. The ladbrokes offer would be pretty much +EV no matter which slot you use, assuming you retain £4 from the free bet. Obviously you can increase EV taking a better RTP slot.

The Sporting Bet offer is +EV every single time; It's worth about 2.30 each week. Not to mention the fact its extremely quick to do, low variance and very easy. There's really no reason you wouldn't be doing this offer unless you did only risk free offers. You don't need to lose (quite the opposite) but the cashback if you do is giving you the edge.

x20 on a 200% bonus is a nice amount of positive EV actually, especially going by todays offers and is certainly not 'marginal'. In fact i'm quite confident it would still be +EV if it did require the deposit and bonus to be wagered. Not to mention i was doing a high RTP slot and low spin size meaning my bust rate was only around 70%. I wouldn't say this is 'low' risk.. but i wouldn't say high either.

The Betfair offer required use of blackjack or roulette.. two of the lowest variance games available. Again worth a couple of quid but with the low buy in and low wagering, this pretty low risk.

I don't really understand what you are trying to say with your last comment either? I mean are you suggesting i am doing offers where the house has the edge and expecting to make money? I'm well aware that advantage play requires you to have the edge (positive EV).

I'm not sure what they are teaching you on PA.

 

[jkg-jkg]

I'm not sure I agree they are relatively low risk

Ladbrokes wager £30 for £5 free bet - with the right RTP slot then this is a +ve EV so agree here
Sportingbet Wager £10 and get 50% refund on losses - this still needs you to make losses, so this is -ve EV
Superlenny 200% deposit bonus (x20) buying in with £20 - if this is just x20 the bonus then marginal, but x20 both deposit and bonus then it is -ve EV
Betfair £5 live casino match - this is sort of ok, but with such a small amount the variance can kill you even if the EV is +ve

Maybe you are limited to the offers you are allowed to do, but it might be you need to look again at the offers you choose and target only those with +ve EV for a while

I don't think you quite grasp the maths behind what would be EV and what wouldn't. The ladbrokes offer would be pretty much +EV no matter which slot you use, assuming you retain £4 from the free bet. Obviously you can increase EV taking a better RTP slot.

The Sporting Bet offer is +EV every single time; It's worth about 2.30 each week. Not to mention the fact its extremely quick to do, low variance and very easy. There's really no reason you wouldn't be doing this offer unless you did only risk free offers. You don't need to lose (quite the opposite) but the cashback if you do is giving you the edge.

x20 on a 200% bonus is a nice amount of positive EV actually, especially going by todays offers and is certainly not 'marginal'. In fact i'm quite confident it would still be +EV if it did require the deposit and bonus to be wagered. Not to mention i was doing a high RTP slot and low spin size meaning my bust rate was only around 70%. I wouldn't say this is 'low' risk.. but i wouldn't say high either.

The Betfair offer required use of blackjack or roulette.. two of the lowest variance games available. Again worth a couple of quid but with the low buy in and low wagering, this pretty low risk.

I don't really understand what you are trying to say with your last comment either? I mean are you suggesting i am doing offers where the house has the edge and expecting to make money? I'm well aware that advantage play requires you to have the edge (positive EV).

I'm not sure what they are teaching you on PA.

With a 90% RTP slot I find the variance can be a lot more than a 95% slot and as you are only wagering £30 I think my Ladbrokes comment is fair enough.
SportingBet - I didn't read it right so reading it again you are right, but I hate any offer where you get a % of losses back (because you have to lose first, and I assume you then have wagering on the money they give you back)
SuperLenny Case 1 - £40 x20 = £800 - RTP of 95% = £760 = 0 EV and therefore marginal. Case 2 (more likely as this is the usual SuperLenny T&Cs) - £20 + £40 = £60 x20 = £1200 - RTP of 95% = £1140 so EV = -£20. Feel free to 'teach' me if my maths is wrong
Betfair £5 live casino match - it was x5 wagering if I remember rightly, but with such small amounts even the variance on BJ and Roulette can kill you (it is worth a go, but not in the category of 'low' risk) - doing the 188Bet roulette for free spins offer I saw 3 red out of 25 the other day (luckily I was on black)

You invested £30 + £10 + £20 + £5 = £65 and lost £53, maybe that seems low risk to you, but doesn't to me.

 

[Jon]

just made £19.40 from that betfair 15 free spins offer

I actually hate those 'god' themes slots

 

[Cclaire]

I made 20 earlier today on virgin new customer free spins. Good start to month!